Re: [hiprg] [Hipsec] Putting HIP on a Diet
Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> Tue, 18 May 2010 17:54 UTC
Return-Path: <rgm@htt-consult.com>
X-Original-To: hiprg@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: hiprg@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59413A6969 for <hiprg@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 18 May 2010 10:54:22 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -0.53
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.53 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.531, BAYES_50=0.001]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2jyj7WxVDopb for <hiprg@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 18 May 2010 10:54:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from klovia.htt-consult.com (klovia.htt-consult.com [208.83.67.149]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E3C3A6858 for <hiprg@irtf.org>; Tue, 18 May 2010 10:54:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by klovia.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779DD68B46; Tue, 18 May 2010 17:47:40 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from klovia.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (klovia.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a6r0AkG8SW-r; Tue, 18 May 2010 13:47:31 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from nc2400.htt-consult.com (h155.home.htt [208.83.67.155]) (Authenticated sender: rgm@htt-consult.com) by klovia.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 402DC68B99; Tue, 18 May 2010 13:47:23 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <4BF2D433.6050206@htt-consult.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:53:55 -0400
From: Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100330 Fedora/3.0.4-1.fc12 Thunderbird/3.0.4
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "Henderson, Thomas R" <thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com>
References: <20100517173256.798446BE575@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CE9716194@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com>
In-Reply-To: <7CC566635CFE364D87DC5803D4712A6C4CE9716194@XCH-NW-10V.nw.nos.boeing.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: "hipsec@ietf.org" <hipsec@ietf.org>, "hiprg@irtf.org" <hiprg@irtf.org>, 'Noel Chiappa' <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [hiprg] [Hipsec] Putting HIP on a Diet
X-BeenThere: hiprg@irtf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Host Identity Protocol \(HIP\) Research Group" <hiprg.irtf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg>, <mailto:hiprg-request@irtf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.irtf.org/mail-archive/web/hiprg>
List-Post: <mailto:hiprg@irtf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:hiprg-request@irtf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg>, <mailto:hiprg-request@irtf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:54:22 -0000
On 05/18/2010 01:31 PM, Henderson, Thomas R wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] >> On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa >> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:33 AM >> To: hiprg@irtf.org; hipsec@ietf.org >> Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu >> Subject: Re: [hiprg] Putting HIP on a Diet >> >> > From: Robert Moskowitz<rgm@htt-consult.com> >> >> > What is HIP? Is HIP the exchange we have now have and >> only that? Or is >> > HIP a class of protocols built on a Host Identity, each bring a >> > slightly different set of security claims and risks and >> a slightly >> > different domain of use? >> >> Well, those are some key (and excellent) questions - and I >> would think you >> need to answer them all fairly fully, and fairly early in the >> design process. >> >> > I agree, and while it would be fine to work the protocol specifics in the research group (since the proposed WG charter doesn't include this for now), I think that the basic question above should be covered in RFC4423bis. I would support the latter interpretation (that HIP is (potentially) a protocol family built around the concept of a namespace for IP stacks). I will move HIP DEX discussions over to HIP-RG. Drat it :)
- [hiprg] Putting HIP on a Diet Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [hiprg] Putting HIP on a Diet Noel Chiappa
- Re: [hiprg] Putting HIP on a Diet gao.yang2
- Re: [hiprg] Putting HIP on a Diet Henderson, Thomas R
- Re: [hiprg] [Hipsec] Putting HIP on a Diet Robert Moskowitz