Re: [homenet] renumbering the IETF

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 23 February 2013 19:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] renumbering the IETF
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Michael asked:

> Given happy eyeballs, how will we measure the impact of a v6-only
> renumbering?

By a reduction in IPv6 traffic after the event?

In any case, to some extent it's a pass/fail test (where "pass" = "no complaints").

Regards
   Brian

On 23/02/2013 08:27, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 23/02/2013 05:53, Erik Kline wrote:
> ..
>> I wonder if we should ask the NOC about performing a renumbering
>> during the next IETF meeting.
>>
>> Ideally, we should be able to perform one or two (or three)
>> renumberings in a week, glean the relevant operational experience, and
>> send a draft to v6ops shortly thereafter.
> 
> Great idea. I won't be in Orlando, but I am fairly sure there is nothing
> I would do there that cares about address persistency, apart from
> having to reconnect to jabber maybe. Conducting an RFC 4192 procedure
> on Tuesday night and a flash IPv6 renumbering during Thursday morning
> would be very interesting!
> 
> At least Skype will not be a problem during IPv6 renumbering.
> 
>     Brian
>