Re: [homenet] Dnsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation-18

Matt Brown <matt@mattb.net.nz> Mon, 17 October 2022 20:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] Dnsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation-18
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 2:40 AM Michael Richardson
<mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for this review!
> You did a very good job..
>
> Matt Brown via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
>     > Homenet Zone is highly likely to be the same IP with an open DNS
>     > port for the DM to connect to for XFR, and while the relationship
>     > in IPv6 is not as straightforward given the likely use of privacy
>     > addressing, etc it's not particularly hard to scan the enclosing
>     > /64 or beyond for an address with an open DNS port.
>
> 18 quintillion addresses is quite a lot :-)
> It's not easy to scan.  Maybe you had some
>
> Here is a discussion in 6man, about using a browser to scan the IPv6-LL
> of a local LAN:
>   https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/YDRrY71hxhQBdMGLS-XByHS1f7I/

Of course, please excuse the brain fart here and ignore this comment.

> The other points are interesting, and I'll need to think about your
> editorial suggestions about what order to present things in.

Happy to chat more in due course.

Thanks

-- 
Matt Brown