Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol
Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> Sat, 15 November 2014 16:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote: >> This included technical discussion around a partially unanticipated I have always felt that we needed to have something that could route packets as best as possible based on conditions (and in particular transport configuration information) across many disparate link layers - homeplug, MoCa, 802.11, 802.11ad, 802.14, 6lowpan, VPNs, and sharks with lasers. (https://twitter.com/RalfMuehlen/status/533414954167070720/photo/1 ). While full compliance with rfc2549 is not required, wires as we knew them are going the way of the dodo, and already have, in most homes and small businesses. >> requirement for HNCP to support a stub network with a gateway that >> doesn't have sufficient resources to run a routing protocol. Could someone describe what sort of resources these gateways (nest, I assume) actually have? - What OS they run, how much ram and flash is on them, is there virtual memory, etc? Are there devices in this category that can be hacked on? I am reminded of the dnssec debate put to rest by merely producing a proof of concept on an ancient cpe... I mean, babel, for example, is like, 61k, on mips with the sole dependency on libc. Other daemons, like pimd are in the same size category. > > Mark, > > Could you please spell out the requirements for a stub-only > implementation? Do you expect the stub router to hold the full routing > table, or just two routes (connected network and default route)? > > Is there interest in a stub-only implementation of Babel? Should it be > a standalone daemon, or should it be integrated in the HNCP daemon? > > -- Juliusz > > _______________________________________________ > homenet mailing list > homenet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet -- Dave Täht thttp://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Upcoming_Talks
- [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Mark Townsley
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Ole Troan
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Teco Boot
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- [homenet] Stub-only Babel [was: Next Steps for Ro… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Stub-only Babel [was: Next Steps fo… Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Pierre Pfister
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Pierre Pfister
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Pierre Pfister
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Teco Boot
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for HNCP Pierre Pfister
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Henning Rogge
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Henning Rogge
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol James Woodyatt
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Ole Troan
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Ole Troan
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Stub-only Babel [was: Next Steps fo… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Teco Boot
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] Next Steps for Routing Protocol Steven Barth