Re: [homenet] Looking for a Homenet co-chair

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 26 August 2021 12:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] Looking for a Homenet co-chair
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I think it's pretty clear that there's more work to do; the question is
whether the homenet working group has a quorum to do it. A fair amount of
the work we were trying to do in homenet has wound up happening in dnssd
instead, which seems fine—there was a pretty clear overlap there.

There is still work to do that I think is homenet-relevant, but only if
there are people in homenet who want to do it. I haven't had time to
progress the stub networks draft because I've been too busy doing dnssd
work, but that would be an example. I'd really like to progress that draft
/somewhere/, and it seems a /bit/ off-topic for dnssd. It could go in
v6ops, but it's pretty off-topic for v6ops. Same with intarea.

But of course the stub networks document isn't what Homenet set out to do.
It's just a building block that might lead there. The original work of
homenet doesn't seem to have caught on in the market, and I think it's
because we didn't have an adoption strategy. Personally I think stub
networks is a good bottom-up beginning to a strategy that could ultimately
produce an adoptable version of what we originally tried to do. But again,
only if people here want to pursue that.

On August 24, 2021 at 8:37:24 PM, Stephen Farrell (stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie)
wrote:


Hiya,

On 24/08/2021 08:59, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> As you are probably aware, Barbara Stark is retiring from her WG
> chair position after IETF-112

I'd also like to thank Barbara for all her fine work for this
WG, and everything else in IETF-land too!

> and I now have ‘mission impossible n++’
> to find a new WG chair to assist Stephen Farrel.
>
> As Stephen is an experimented WG chair, having a ‘junior’ co-chair
> would be welcome (of course ‘senior’ as well!), i.e., even if you are
> new at the IETF and if you have never been a WG chair, then feel free
> to reply unicast[1] to me: we can then have a chat about the job and
> the motivation. The job itself is not a big chunk of time outside the
> IETF weeks but requires human skills (herding cats !) and of course
> good technical knowledge.
>
> Looking forward to reading your email about you or about any
> suggestion

So, (having checked with Eric and Barbara) I'd also like
to know whether (or not) participants consider that the
homenet WG may now have reached the time when it's more
appropriate to close the WG. That might (or might not)
make a search for a new co-chair moot.

If closing the WG were the better option then we'd want
to have a discussion about how to handle ongoing work
(e.g. see if there's a better venue), but that's a
separate discussion.

Cheers,
S.

PS: FWIW, I'd be just as happy if there's consensus to
continue or to call it a day - either is a fine outcome
if it matches reality.

>
> Regards
>
> -éric
>
> [1] unicast is preferred but not required
>
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