Re: [homenet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02.txt
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 03 July 2018 00:22 UTC
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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 20:21:48 -0400
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Subject: Re: [homenet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02.txt
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I didn’t get all the updates I wanted to into this version. A lot of the issues you mention here were discussed in my presentation in London. Will you be in Montreal? On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 7:43 PM Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote: > One thing that confuses me reading this is where (if any) is the > "caching resolver" expected > to reside. in section 2.2, last bullet it makes mention of an ISP > resolver, but it's not clear whether > that resolver is the same as the homenet resolver. if it's not that > resolver, maybe it would be better > to defer that discussion somehow? that is, say that it can happen, but > defer how it might happen > until later. > > nit: you should move the terminology section up at least one section. > > I think this draft says that each homenet router can implement the > naming functionality. how do they > negotiate who is authoritative? If it's in another document, it might be > nice to call that out. > > I'm not groking why this requires the use of ULA's for v6. It doesn't > seem to require that ipv4 use > rfc 1918 addresses? why does the naming function care which address > space an address is in? > what if i don't want to use ULA's? > > In section 6, it says that request are sent to the local resolver which > is either a caching resolver > or a proxy. Does that imply that the caching resolver cannot be > authoritative too? I don't think > that's what you mean, but it's sort of confusing. Some ascii art might > be helpful to show the > topology possibilities > > thanks, > > Mike > > On 07/02/2018 01:38 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Home Networking WG of the IETF. > > > > Title : Simple Homenet Naming and Service Discovery > Architecture > > Authors : Ted Lemon > > Daniel Migault > > Stuart Cheshire > > Filename : draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02.txt > > Pages : 15 > > Date : 2018-07-02 > > > > Abstract: > > This document describes how names are published and resolved on > > homenets, and how hosts are configured to use these names to discover > > services on homenets. It presents the complete architecture, and > > describes a simple subset of that architecture that can be used in > > low-cost homenet routers. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02 > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > homenet mailing list > > homenet@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet > > > _______________________________________________ > homenet mailing list > homenet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet >
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