Re: [homenet] Multicast scoping

Mark Townsley <mark@townsley.net> Thu, 07 November 2013 18:14 UTC

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This part of the agenda today includes quite a bit on the thorny problem of Border Discovery, you are more the welcome to join if you can!

Security
  1040 Michael Behringer, draft-behringer-homenet-trust-bootstrap-01 (10 min)
  1050 Markus Stenberg and Erik Kline, draft-kline-homenet-default-perimeter-00
  (implementation report) (15 min)
Homenet / HIPnet Design Team Results
  1105  Timothy Winters, draft-winters-homenet-sper-interaction-00 (20 min)

On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Brian Haberman wrote:

> All,
>     I seem to be the bane of homenet given my stance on multicast scope
> zones.  Probably because I am a co-author on RFC 4007. :)
> 
>     After some discussions, it seems there is a reasonable way to allow
> the homenet arch to use the admin-scope multicast range.  My original
> concern, as documented in my DISCUSS, is that RFC 4291 requires scope 4
> and larger be administratively configured.  I will contend that *if* all
> the homenet boundary routers can automatically set a boundary based on
> getting a prefix delegation from an ISP, that satisfies the
> administratively configured rule 4291.
> 
> If the WG is agreeable with that, there are a few things I would like to
> see in the arch doc:
> 
> 1. References to site-local scope need to be changed to admin-scope
> 
> 2. Some guidance on the setting of that boundary triggered by an
> administrative function like PD is needed
> 
> Regards,
> Brian
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