Re: [homenet] “Hybrid Access for Broadband Networks” (WT-348)
Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 29 October 2014 14:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [homenet] “Hybrid Access for Broadband Networks” (WT-348)
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Le 28/10/2014 05:10, Xueli a écrit : > Hello Alex > > Thank you for your nice comment. The scenario here is for the fixed > operators rather than the mobile phone for higher bandwidth. I make > this clarification in the new version architecture draft as: ” Hosts > in the customer site may connect to the Internet through the CPE, the > 3G/4G network, or both. In most cases the majority of the hosts > connects to the Internet through the CPE only and will experience > slow Internet access when the bandwidth provided by the fixed access > network is fully utilized (e.g., the traffic over the fixed access > network reached its maximum capacity or a pre-specified threshold set > by the operator). So we are considering the scenario with CPE > extension with multiple access networks. > > I would like to know additional information on the internet drafts > you mentioned, do you mind to provide more information on this? Sure, it is about these documents; Flow Binding Support for Mobile IP draft-ietf-mip4-multiple-tunnel-support-08.txt Flow Bindings in Mobile IPv6 and Network Mobility (NEMO) Basic Support RFC 6089 and this post: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mip4/current/msg03728.html > > Best Regards Li > > > -----Original Message----- From: Alexandru Petrescu > [mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 23, > 2014 12:28 AM To: Xueli; Ted Lemon; STARK, BARBARA H Cc: HOMENET > Working Group; mif@ietf.org Subject: Re: “Hybrid Access for Broadband > Networks” (WT-348) > > Hello Xueli, > > Several people look at this problem as an IP problem. Instead of > considering a cellular+dsl combination in a homebox, they considered > cellular+wifi on a smartphone. But the goal was the same: augment > the bandwidth perceived by the end user. > > In implementation it is however quite challenging. The more tempting > the expectations of augmenting bandwidth by simply adding network > interfaces (as in adding RAM to a busy computer), the higher the > desillusion when facing the challenges of implementation. > > Some consider it simply as a local computer policy problem (and hence > no new communicaiton standards needed), but others consider that > there is a need of a server in the infrastructure to which these > interfaces would first connect (a sort of an 'anchor'). > > If such a technology is developped, it will surely be useful for more > than homenets - it will be useful for multi-interfaced smartphones, > useful for mobile routers installed in vehicles, and more that I can > not think of. > > Alex PS: there are a few IETF Internet Drafts about how would > smartphones would use this, with Mobile IPv4 and Mobile IPv6 > extensions, but there are no widespread implementations. > > Le 22/10/2014 11:48, Xueli a écrit : >> Hello >> >> Thanks Barbara to send this liaison out. >> >> Hybrid Access network is that Residential gateway (RG, or CPE) is >> extended with more than two access lines >> >> (e.g. DSL + LTE) in order to provide higher bandwidth for the >> customers. The scenario and architecture are shown as follows >> >> cid:image002.jpg@01CF9A07.BF8CD480 >> >> Right now, we have two individual drafts, one for architecture and >> requirements, and the other one is for an optional solution. >> >> The draft >> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lhwxz-hybrid-access-network-architec >> >> ture-00 ; ) proposes the architecture and gap analysis. >> >> The solution draft proposes one option for the solutions, >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-heileyli-gre-notifications-00 >> >> We did not combine them as one draft, because we believe there may >> be other candidates, and we would like to have further discussions >> in the related groups and IETF. >> >> We used to present it in Homenet in Toronto. >> >> Now the authors have invited Orange to join this architecture >> work. We will send out the new version of these drafts soon. >> >> We are glad to invite the experts for comments. >> >> Best Regards >> >> Li Xue on the co-authors behalf >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: homenet [mailto:homenet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted >> Lemon >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:05 AM >> >> To: STARK, BARBARA H >> >> Cc: HOMENET Working Group >> >> Subject: Re: [homenet] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "Broadband >> Forum Work on “Hybrid Access for Broadband Networks”(WT-348)" >> >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:55 PM, STARK, BARBARA H <bs7652@att.com> >> wrote: >> >>> FYI. I made sure they were aware of IETF mif and homenet >>> activities in this area. I intend to try to prevent having to >>> track efforts that try to do the same thing in two different >>> ways. But some of the BBF effort may be focused on what can be >>> done around "bonding" of multiple >> interfaces that are under the control of a single service provider. >> I don't see this in mif or homenet. >> >> Thanks. I couldn't really tell what was being proposed from the >> Liaison statement, so this information is helpful. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> homenet mailing list >> >> homenet@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ homenet mailing >> list homenet@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet >> >
- [homenet] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "Broadband … Ted Lemon
- [homenet] =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:__Fwd:_New_Liaison_… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [homenet] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "Broadb… Ted Lemon
- [homenet] =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:__Fwd:_New_Liaison_… Xueli
- Re: [homenet] “Hybrid Access for Broadband Networ… Alexandru Petrescu
- [homenet] =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:__Fwd:_New_Liaison_… Xueli
- [homenet] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_[DMM]_RE:__Fwd:_New_… Xueli
- Re: [homenet] “Hybrid Access for Broadband Networ… Xueli
- Re: [homenet] “Hybrid Access for Broadband Networ… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [homenet] [mif] =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:__Fwd:_Ne… Alper Yegin
- Re: [homenet] [mif] =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:__Fwd:_Ne… Xueli