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Re: [homenet] [babel] about Babel security (questions for Juliusz Chroboczek)

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> Fri, 29 June 2018 23:10 UTC

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From: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>
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Subject: Re: [homenet] [babel] about Babel security (questions for Juliusz Chroboczek)
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>> The draft lives here: 
>> 
>> https://github.com/jech/babel-drafts/tree/master/draft-decimo-babel-dtls 

> As far as the commit history goes, the file was first added to the
> repository above on 25 June 2018 (four days ago), then it was updated
> three times on 27 June 2018 and two times on 29 June 2018 (today, last
> time about three hours ago).

This is partly my fault.  Antonin is a full-time student, and I have been
recommending that he follow his classes and pass his exams in priority to
doing IETF work.  I stand by this advice, and remain convinced that this
was the right thing to do.

> I have studied the document and I find it difficult to discuss right
> now, to be honest.

Please let us know what it is that you didn't understand.

-- Juliusz

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