Re: [hrpc] Thoughts on the end-to-end principle and Human Rights
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 29 March 2017 03:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] Thoughts on the end-to-end principle and Human Rights
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On Mar 28, 2017, at 9:45 PM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > None whatsoever. For most, perhaps all, of the 60 RFCs I have written, if I were asked what rights applied, I would have no idea how to answer. Possibly this is a problem statement, rather than a statement of immutable fact. It is certainly the case that when you make a screw, you do not know and cannot know whether or not it is going to be used to assemble a tractor or a tank. So if all 60 of your RFCs were things like screws, then it would be difficult for you to see what implication they might have toward human rights. However, many RFCs describe protocols that have clear implications for human rights. If you can't conceive of a document for which that would be true, one of the implicit and perhaps explicit goals of this effort is to give you the tools to make this sort of differentiation. It is not clear to me that this project can succeed, but it does seem to me to be the case that such implications do exist, and can be explored, even if fully enumerating them is an NP-complete problem.
- Re: [hrpc] Thoughts on the end-to-end principle a… Corinne Cath
- [hrpc] Thoughts on the end-to-end principle and H… Fred Baker
- Re: [hrpc] Thoughts on the end-to-end principle a… Mando Rachovitsa
- Re: [hrpc] Thoughts on the end-to-end principle a… Fred Baker
- Re: [hrpc] Thoughts on the end-to-end principle a… Ted Lemon
- Re: [hrpc] Thoughts on the end-to-end principle a… Bless, Roland (TM)
- Re: [hrpc] Thoughts on the end-to-end principle a… Fred Baker
- [hrpc] Evangelization of the future RFC (Was: Tho… Stephane Bortzmeyer