Re: [hrpc] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-guerra-feminism-00.txt

Shivan <shivankaul.1993@gmail.com> Wed, 27 March 2019 12:09 UTC

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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:09:08 +0100
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-guerra-feminism-00.txt
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Hi Juliana, Mallory,

Thanks for this. I took a quick look at it.

1.2 The title is "Intersectional feminism and diversity", so it reads a bit
funny for the leading rhetorical question "why feminism and not gender?" to
only concern itself with gender. Similarly for the rest of the para;
perhaps some examples of other marginalized categories might be useful?
Also there's a lot of commas in this para :)

1.3 Maybe add a reference to Feminist Principles here? In general the
Principles are mentioned quite a few times in the draft, so might be worth
thinking about the best way to discuss the Principles in one place and how
they relate to IETF work (or not).

1.4.2.  2.2. (?) mentions that the draft delves into how gender appears in
IETF documents, but I don't see that analysis anywhere (unless I'm missing
it?). Is that TBD?

The numbering on the whole in the draft got muddled up I think :) which
made the rest of the document hard to follow.

This is a "full" -00 draft, and it reads a bit rambly, which is fine. I
think it will be slightly easier to review once the structure/numbering is
sorted out!



On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:11 PM Juliana Guerra <
juliana@derechosdigitales.org> wrote:

> Hello everyone, last week we submitted a draft on feminism and protocols
> which can be of interest in this group. This is a very preliminary
> approach, trying to recognize the differentiated effects of protocols on
> users who are part of traditionally marginalized groups. With this
> document we would like to draw attention to the need to join efforts in
> order to build safer, more accessible and inclusive digital environments.
>
> Your comments, questions and input will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Juliana Guerra
>
>
>
> Name:           draft-guerra-feminism
> Revision:       00
> Title:          Feminism and protocols
> Document date:  2019-03-11
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          15
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-guerra-feminism-00.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-guerra-feminism/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-guerra-feminism-00
> Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-guerra-feminism
>
>
> Abstract:
>    This document aims to describe how internet standrds and protocols
>    and its implementations may impact diverse groups and communities.
>    The research on how some protocol can be enabler for specific human
>    rights while possibly restricting others has been documented in
>    [RFC8280].  Similar to how RFC 8280 has taken a human rights lens
>    through which to view engineering and design choices by internet
>    standardisation, this document addreses the opportunities and
>    vulnerabilities embedded within internet protocols for specific,
>    traditionally maginalised groups.
>
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