Re: [http-state] Welcome to http-state

"Adam Barth" <ietf@adambarth.com> Mon, 12 January 2009 22:51 UTC

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From: Adam Barth <ietf@adambarth.com>
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In taking to server operators, bandwidth was a major concern.  There
are lots of ways to fix this problem (and the similar sibling domain
issue).  We should aim for a solution that minimizes bandwidth.

Adam


On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Bil Corry <bil@corry.biz> wrote:
> Adam Barth wrote on 1/12/2009 3:59 PM:
>> The Cookie-Integrity header has two advantages over altering the
>> semantics of Set-Cookie:
>
> I brought this up on the old list; what about using $Version instead?
>
> Something like:
>
>        Set-Cookie: a=b; Version="3"; HTTPOnly; Secure
>
> which the browser responds:
>
>        Cookie: $Version="3"; a=b; $Integrity="HTTPOnly,Secure"
>
>
> Of course, we're reworking the cookie spec, so presumably we can choose a better method (which may be the Cookie-Integrity header).  One idea I tossed around with Yngve was to repurpose Cookie2 (which only Opera currently supports) and make it the "new" cookie standard.  Then it's just a matter of educating developers to use Cookie2 instead of Cookie (and makes discussion about the update easier).  Because of the limited deployment of Cookie2, I'd imagine any backwards compatibility problems would be also limited.
>
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> - Bil
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