Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarcation
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From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
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Subject: Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarcation
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On Thu, 5 Aug 2010, Roberto Peon wrote: > > If I had a belief (or at minimum an assurance) that if there was a > continuing worry about scalability as we go forward that we would change > the protocol and get it implemented in Opera, Firefox, Safari and > Chrome, I'd not be making noise-- I'd be cheering! I don't really know how we can provide you with such a belief beyond what has been done so far, which is to say that every browser vendor who has commented on the topic has assured us that they intend to follow the same procedure with this protocol as with all other Web technologies: keep extending it if there's a demonstrated need. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
- [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarcation Douglas Otis
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Douglas Otis
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Douglas Otis
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Douglas Otis
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- [hybi] Compression - stream vs frame Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] Compression - stream vs frame Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Compression - stream vs frame John Tamplin
- Re: [hybi] Compression - stream vs frame Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Sylvain Hellegouarch
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Pieter Hintjens
- Re: [hybi] Compression - stream vs frame Matthew Wild
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal: Impact on multiplexi… Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Compression - stream vs frame Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Sylvain Hellegouarch
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Patrick McManus
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Sylvain Hellegouarch
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Sylvain Hellegouarch
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jack Moffitt
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Douglas Otis
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Compression - stream vs frame Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Patrick McManus
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jack Moffitt
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Douglas Otis
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Rob Sayre
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Pieter Hintjens
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Patrick McManus
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Patrick McManus
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jack Moffitt
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… L.Wood
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Scott Ferguson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… L.Wood
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Pieter Hintjens
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jack Moffitt
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Pieter Hintjens
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Rob Sayre
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… James Graham
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… James Graham
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Dave Cridland
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jack Moffitt
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jack Moffitt
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… James Graham
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… James Graham
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… James Graham
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Douglas Otis
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Roberto Peon
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… James Graham
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Rob Sayre
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Rob Sayre
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… SM
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… James Graham
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… James Graham
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… SM
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ)
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [hybi] Framing proposal with start/end demarc… Bill de hÓra