Re: [hybi] New mailing list: hybi (HTTP "long poll" and related protocols)

Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> Mon, 30 March 2009 21:23 UTC

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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:24:52 +0000
From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
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Subject: Re: [hybi] New mailing list: hybi (HTTP "long poll" and related protocols)
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > 
> > I notice the description of the list is "Server-Initiated HTTP", while 
> > at least some of the techniques proposed, in particular Web Socket, 
> > are only tangentially related to HTTP (WebSocket is a client-initiated 
> > Web-aware bidirectional socket, it's not server-initiated and the HTTP 
> > aspect is just an optional bootstrapping mechanism). Is the scope 
> > intended to include or exclude long-term discussion of such solutions?
> 
> It's not clear to me what you mean by "scope". This is just a mailing 
> list, it doesn't set requirements for anything.

I just meant with respect to what was "on-topic" vs what was "off-topic". 
e.g. presumably discussion of what my cats were up to this morning is not 
in scope for this mailing list. :-)


> > Also, what is the process by which discussion on this list can result 
> > in a standards-track document?
> 
> That would be the Internet Standards Process: RFC 2026.
> 
> The basic idea is that people who are interested in this space might 
> work to organize a BOF at a future IETF meeting with the purpose of 
> chartering a working group. As input to the BOF, those people would 
> publish some Internet-Drafts that define requirements, best practices, 
> use cases, and the like. (See my notes on the "breakfast BOF" that we 
> held last week.) That might lead to formation of a working group and 
> official charter items. And so on.

Woah. Ok, good to know. I guess we better get started then. :-)

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