Re: [hybi] New mailing list: hybi (HTTP "long poll" and related protocols)

[Peter Saint-Andre <[e-mail]>]

On 3/30/09 1:41 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Mark Nottingham wrote:
>> As discussed in the APPS area meeting last week, a new mailing list has 
>> been created to discuss the standards implications and actions related 
>> to HTTP "long poll" techniques (e.g., COMET, BOSH) as well as new 
>> protocols that serve similar use cases (e.g., WebSockets, rHTTP).
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> I notice the description of the list is "Server-Initiated HTTP", while at 
> least some of the techniques proposed, in particular Web Socket, are only 
> tangentially related to HTTP (WebSocket is a client-initiated Web-aware 
> bidirectional socket, it's not server-initiated and the HTTP aspect is 
> just an optional bootstrapping mechanism). Is the scope intended to 
> include or exclude long-term discussion of such solutions?

It's not clear to me what you mean by "scope". This is just a mailing
list, it doesn't set requirements for anything.

> Also, what is the process by which discussion on this list can result in a 
> standards-track document? 

That would be the Internet Standards Process: RFC 2026.

The basic idea is that people who are interested in this space might
work to organize a BOF at a future IETF meeting with the purpose of
chartering a working group. As input to the BOF, those people would
publish some Internet-Drafts that define requirements, best practices,
use cases, and the like. (See my notes on the "breakfast BOF" that we
held last week.) That might lead to formation of a working group and
official charter items. And so on.

Peter

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