Re: [hybi] An alternative design for the web socket handshake

[Jamie Lokier <[e-mail]>]

Greg Wilkins wrote:
> So if we use TLS, then I think it is even more important
> that we consider how we can limit and/or reduce the
> usage of connections. Multiplexing would help.
> Sharing connections with HTTP traffic is also a good idea.

Multiplexing over TLS works for me technically as far as scaling at
the client and server.  I'd worry a little about the inability to
fan-in and fan-out at intermediate proxies, which is not likely to be
relevant to the majority of locations, but is potentially useful in
some networks.

My main concern, with TLS, would be the social/political ramifications
of everything being encrypted and end-to-end authenticated.

Maybe that's a good direction to take the web, but are we sure
WebSocket and the Hybi forum is the place to push it, starting from a
technical concern?

If port 443 is needed, why not send non-TLS traffic over it?  Are
proxies which pass TLS bytes unchanged going to recognise unencrypted
data and mangle it?  Is it forbidden to use anything other than TLS
over it?

Thanks,
-- Jamie