Re: [hybi] Flow control quota

"Arman Djusupov" <arman@noemax.com> Thu, 28 June 2012 08:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hybi] Flow control quota
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> I have no idea why you connected the sentences with "so", but yes. There
would be no problem with applying per-frame compression after this new mux.

 

Sorry, I was just rephrasing the text and forgot the "so" in that place.

 

> Yes. As I stated here
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/hybi/current/msg09720.html, I'm going
to also change the compression algorithm to per-message one. Then, there
would be no fragmentation lock for any combination.

 

Agree.

 

> We can

> - add per-message flag to encapsulating message that indicates it has the
final chunk of the encapsulated frame

> - change the quota mechanism from per-frame basis to per-byte basis

> to make the mux to keep frame boundary.

 

What do you mean by "per-byte" basis? Current flow control quota is already
expressed in bytes.

 

With best regards,

Arman