Re: [hybi] updated Charter proposal (WebSocket)

Ian --

There really isn't anything for proxy vendors to implement in  
WebSockets, is there? Provided that they support CONNECT, of course.

To get proxy vendors on board, there will need to be overlay protocols  
that allow them, for example, to multiplex many client connections  
into one server connection, but that's far and above what WS does.

Or do you intend to go in that direction?

Cheers,

On 27/10/2009, at 11:14 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Greg Wilkins wrote:
>> Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with that point of view. It seems sensible to use WebSocket
>>> Protocol as the starting point, even if we see the need to add
>>> features or otherwise change the protocol. There doesn't seem to  
>>> be a
>>> strong case for starting from scratch.
>>
>> [...] I don't think the charter should mandate the WebSocket  
>> protocol as
>> the outcome.
>>
>> The protocol should be able to be selected on it's own merits - and  
>> that
>> includes the effort that many have put towards it already.
>
> I agree with Greg that it would be inappropriate for the WG to be  
> bound to
> adopt a particular proposal or rubber-stamp a particular proposal.
>
> What matters much more is that the group's deliverables have the buy- 
> in of
> the relevant implementors -- if we write a technology that is  
> intended to
> be implemented by proxy vendors, then proxy vendors need to be  
> willing to
> implement it. If we write a technology that is intended to be  
> implemented
> by Web browsers, then Web browsers need to be willing to implement it.
> Otherwise, we're just wasting our time writing boring science fiction.
>
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