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Tobias Oberstein <tobias.oberstein@tavendo.de> Fri, 04 October 2013 17:11 UTC

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>>Well, I'm sorry for the Java community not being able to fix this in 10+ years;)
>Yet, oddly, with web technologies, this hasn't been a problem since our initial use of Oak in 1995 (yes, Jetty has existed since 1995)

Jetty being around since 1995 is obviously awesome!

As a strange coincidence, zlib has also be around since 1 May 1995 (I haven't checked whether the respective options have been in the first version though).

> The capabilities of one set of libraries (c & python) should not be forced on all environments as well.

Lets collect a list: a) stuff that exposes the complete zlib vs b) stuff that does not;)

a) C, C++, Python, NodeJS, Perl, Ruby, PHP, Erlang, Haskell
b) Java

Caveat: I (obviously) have not used all of above myself. Just had a quick glance at their docs.

Pointers:
http://perldoc.perl.org/Compress/Zlib.html#Deflate-Interface
http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.0.0/libdoc/zlib/rdoc/Zlib/Deflate.html
http://www.php.net/manual/de/function.gzdeflate.php
http://erlang.org/doc/man/zlib.html
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/zlib-0.5.4.1/docs/Codec-Compression-Zlib.html

I stop here;)

/Tobias

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