Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative
Rory Byrne <rory@jinsky.com> Thu, 29 October 2009 12:31 UTC
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Hi Everyone, I'm new to this list. Just wanted to jump in here and throw my support in with the server developers who want to see a byte count on all frames. I think that Greg Wilkins is right on the money in what he says about managing server resources. A byte count which tells a server how much data a client intends to push to it, is a critical piece of information. We're talking about servers that are going to have many thousands of clients permanently connected to them for weeks, or months, on end. To stay alive, these servers will need to be excellent at resource management. IMO, the protocol as it stands at the moment, is not giving these servers the information they require to enable them to adequately manage their resources. In a further effort to boost our chances of building robust WebSocket servers, I would hope that we might consider adding some sort of maximum frame length negotiation. Nothing fancy, there could be a suitable default maximum, and a 'Max-Frame-Length' header which enables a client to negotiate a higher maximum. Maybe something like this: GET /demo HTTP/1.1 Upgrade: WebSocket Connection: Upgrade Host: example.com Origin: http://example.com WebSocket-Protocol: sample Max-Frame-Length: 2097152 HTTP/1.1 101 Web Socket Protocol Handshake Upgrade: WebSocket Connection: Upgrade WebSocket-Origin: http://example.com WebSocket-Location: ws://example.com/demo WebSocket-Protocol: sample Max-Frame-Length: 1048576 The server would only send a 'Max-Frame-Length' header if it wanted to set the maximum to be lower than the client suggested. Any thoughts? On the whole, I'm really excited about this effort to introduce the Web Socket protocol. It's great to see that there's buy-in from browser developers, and I'm really looking forward to testing out their implementations! Thanks, Rory
- [hybi] WS framing alternative Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Thomas Broyer
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Rory Byrne
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative SM
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Thomson, Martin
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Ian Hickson
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Pieter Hintjens
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Jamie Lokier
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative SM
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Greg Wilkins
- Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative Greg Wilkins