Re: [hybi] WS framing alternative

[Greg Wilkins <[e-mail]>]

Pieter Hintjens wrote:
> A better way to resolve the conflicts of interest that many of us
> bring to such discussions is to create competition between solutions,
> i.e. multiple protocols that implementors can choose.  Over time that
> will drive the solutions towards an optimum.

Pieter,

After initial failures to get my concerns addressed in WS, I
did decide to propose alternative solutions. BWTP mk I and BWTP mk II
resulted.

But now it appears that a working group cannot be formed to consider
multiple solutions and that it will be free to consider any solution
so long as it is websocket.

Thus I've stopped efforts on developing BWTP as it appears it will
be wasted effort.

We are in the strange circumstance that whatwg does not want to
deal with concerns other than js in browsers and the IETF does not
want to consider solutions other than what the whatwg is proposing.

I do feel that the process has been setup for failure and unless
we can broaden the requirements or consider other alternatives
then we are doomed to endless unproductive debates between people
with different agendas.

regards