Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submission Stream
Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 26 July 2023 10:22 UTC
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From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 03:22:20 -0700
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Subject: Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submission Stream
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On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 11:45 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Eliot, > I answer your comments and questions inline below. > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 1:35 AM Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot > Lear) <rfc-ise@rfc-editor.org> wrote: > >> Hi Paul and thanks for contacting me, and thanks Adrian. Before we >> proceed further, it may be desirable to either SECDISPATCH >> > or present to OPSAREA these works back into the IETF. >> > Has that been discussed? >> > => These three I2NSF drafts were discussed in the I2NSF WG in the past. > However, since their topics were out of scope of the I2NSF WG, they > could not > be adopted by the I2NSF WG. > Even though I tried to proceed with the standardization of those drafts > through the rechartering of the I2NSF WG, the rechartering was declined > by > Roman Danyliw, who is a SEC AD, due to the low energy of the I2NSF WG. > Roman also declined to shepherd them as an AD sponsor in the case of > Independent Submission Stream due to some reasons announced to the > I2NSF WG. > By this background, I think that the discussion in SECDISPATCH may not > be > appropriable for these drafts. > > I do not think that these are reasons for not to go to SecDispatch. That's the role of SecDispatch WG; to discuss and suggest a way forward for work that has no obvious home. Regards, Rifaat > OPSAWG may be appropriable for these drafts since they are related to > operations and management for the closed-loop security control by the > I2NSF > framework. > However, many active WG documents are handled and overloaded by OPSAWG, > I am afraid that these drafts cannot be discussed and handled by > OPSAWG. >> >> A working group closure on its own should not preclude further IETF work. >> > Also, you may wish to present this work to iotops if you have not already >> done so. >> > => Thanks for your encouragement on these drafts. > IOTOPS handles the issues related to IoT devices, so these drafts > may not be interesting to IOTOPS because these I2NSF drafts are related > to > the virtualized security functions for cloud-based security service > systems. > > I believe that Adrian will be able to suggest a good way for these > drafts after his review on > these drafts after this IETF 117. > > I CC Roman Danyliw who was the responsible AD of the I2NSF WG since he > may give > us his more opinions. > > Thanks. > > Best Regards, > Paul > > > Eliot (ISE) >> >> On 25 Jul 2023, at 09:33, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> >> <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Adrian, >> As I told you yesterday, >> I2NSF WG has finished all the chartered work items including the five >> YANG data model drafts recently, >> and it is concluded now: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/i2nsf/about/ >> >> However, to deploy the I2NSF framework and interfaces in the industry, >> the following three drafts will be quite useful: >> >> - Security Management Automation of Cloud-Based Security Services in >> I2NSF Framework >> . URL: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-i2nsf-security-management-automation/ >> . Summary: This draft proposes an extension of the I2NSF framework for >> closed-loop >> security control in Intent-Based Networking (IBN). It suggests a new >> component called >> I2NSF Analyzer and a new interface called Analytics Interface. >> . Purpose: Informational RFC >> >> - I2NSF Analytics Interface YANG Data Model >> . URL: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lingga-i2nsf-analytics-interface-dm/ >> . Summary: This draft proposes an Analytics Interface YANG Data Model to >> deliver either >> policy reconfiguration or feedback information from I2NSF Analyzer to >> Security >> Controller. >> . Purpose: Experimental RFC >> >> - Guidelines for Security Policy Translation in Interface to Network >> Security Functions >> . URL: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yang-i2nsf-security-policy-translation/ >> . Summary: This draft proposes the guidelines for security policy >> translation >> in the I2NSF framework, that is, the translation from a high-level >> security policy >> to the corresponding low-level security policy. It focuses on the >> mapping between >> Consumer-Facing Interface and Network Security Function (NSF)-Facing >> Interface. >> >> The basic concepts of these works are proved through the I2NSF Hackathon >> Projects. >> The open-source I2NSF hackathon project is located at the Github: >> https://github.com/jaehoonpaul/i2nsf-framework >> >> I would like to submit those three drafts to the IETF independent >> submission stream this week: >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/ >> >> If you have comments on this matter, please let us know. >> >> I CC Eliot Lear who is the Independent Submissions Editor (ISE) in the >> IETF. >> >> Thanks for your support. >> >> Best Regards, >> Paul >> -- >> =========================== >> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >> Associate Professor >> Department of Computer Science and Engineering >> Sungkyunkwan University >> Office: +82-31-299-4957 >> Email: pauljeong@skku.edu, jaehoon.paul@gmail.com >> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >> <http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php> >> >>
- [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submission S… Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
- Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submissi… Eliot Lear
- Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submissi… Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)
- Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submissi… Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
- Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submissi… Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
- Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submissi… Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
- Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submissi… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submissi… Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
- Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submissi… Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear)