Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Drafts for Independent Submission Stream

["Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Rifaat,
Okay, SecDispatch WG seems like a good place.
How can I take action to let the following three I2NSF drafts be reviewed
by SecDispatch WG?

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- Security Management Automation of Cloud-Based Security Services in I2NSF
Framework
. URL:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-i2nsf-security-management-automation/
. Summary: This draft proposes an extension of the I2NSF framework for
closed-loop
  security control in Intent-Based Networking (IBN). It suggests a new
component called
  I2NSF Analyzer and a new interface called Analytics Interface.
. Purpose: Informational RFC

- I2NSF Analytics Interface YANG Data Model
. URL:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lingga-i2nsf-analytics-interface-dm/
. Summary: This draft proposes an Analytics Interface YANG Data Model to
deliver either
  policy reconfiguration or feedback information from I2NSF Analyzer to
Security
  Controller.
. Purpose: Experimental RFC

- Guidelines for Security Policy Translation in Interface to Network
Security Functions
. URL:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yang-i2nsf-security-policy-translation/
. Summary: This draft proposes the guidelines for security policy
translation
   in the I2NSF framework, that is, the translation from a high-level
security policy
   to the corresponding low-level security policy. It focuses on the
mapping between
   Consumer-Facing Interface and Network Security Function (NSF)-Facing
Interface.
. Purpose:  Standards Track RFC
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Adrian and Linda,
If you have another opinion, please let us know.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul

2023년 7월 26일 (수) 오전 3:22, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <[e-mail]>님이 작성:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 11:45 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eliot,
>> I answer your comments and questions inline below.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 1:35 AM Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot
>> Lear) <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul and thanks for contacting me, and thanks Adrian.  Before we
>>> proceed further, it may be desirable to either SECDISPATCH
>>>
>> or present to OPSAREA these works back into the IETF.
>>>
>> Has that been discussed?
>>>
>>  => These three I2NSF drafts were discussed in the I2NSF WG in the past.
>>    However, since their topics were out of scope of the I2NSF WG, they
>> could not
>>    be adopted by the I2NSF WG.
>>    Even though I tried to proceed with the standardization of those drafts
>>    through the rechartering of the I2NSF WG, the rechartering was
>> declined by
>>    Roman Danyliw, who is a SEC AD, due to the low energy of the I2NSF WG.
>>    Roman also declined to shepherd them as an AD sponsor in the case of
>>    Independent Submission Stream due to some reasons announced to the
>> I2NSF WG.
>>    By this background, I think that the discussion in SECDISPATCH may not
>> be
>>    appropriable for these drafts.
>>
>>
>
> I do not think that these are reasons for not to go to SecDispatch.
> That's the role of SecDispatch WG; to discuss and suggest a way forward
> for work that has no obvious home.
>
> Regards,
>  Rifaat
>
>
>
>
>
>>    OPSAWG may be appropriable for these drafts since they are related to
>>    operations and management for the closed-loop security control by the
>> I2NSF
>>    framework.
>>    However, many active WG documents are handled and overloaded by OPSAWG,
>>    I am afraid that these drafts cannot be discussed and handled by
>> OPSAWG.
>>>
>>> A working group closure on its own should not preclude further IETF
>>> work.
>>>
>> Also, you may wish to present this work to iotops if you have not already
>>> done so.
>>>
>> => Thanks for your encouragement on these drafts.
>>    IOTOPS handles the issues related to IoT devices, so these drafts
>>    may not be interesting to IOTOPS because these I2NSF drafts are
>> related to
>>    the virtualized security functions for cloud-based security service
>> systems.
>>
>>    I believe that Adrian will be able to suggest a good way for these
>> drafts after his review on
>>    these drafts after this IETF 117.
>>
>>    I CC Roman Danyliw who was the responsible AD of the I2NSF WG since he
>> may give
>>    us his more opinions.
>>
>>    Thanks.
>>
>>    Best Regards,
>>    Paul
>>
>>
>> Eliot (ISE)
>>>
>>> On 25 Jul 2023, at 09:33, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
>>> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Adrian,
>>> As I told you yesterday,
>>> I2NSF WG has finished all the chartered work items including the five
>>> YANG data model drafts recently,
>>> and it is concluded now:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/i2nsf/about/
>>>
>>> However, to deploy the I2NSF framework and interfaces in the industry,
>>> the following three drafts will be quite useful:
>>>
>>> - Security Management Automation of Cloud-Based Security Services in
>>> I2NSF Framework
>>> . URL:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-i2nsf-security-management-automation/
>>> . Summary: This draft proposes an extension of the I2NSF framework for
>>> closed-loop
>>>   security control in Intent-Based Networking (IBN). It suggests a new
>>> component called
>>>   I2NSF Analyzer and a new interface called Analytics Interface.
>>> . Purpose: Informational RFC
>>>
>>> - I2NSF Analytics Interface YANG Data Model
>>> . URL:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lingga-i2nsf-analytics-interface-dm/
>>> . Summary: This draft proposes an Analytics Interface YANG Data Model to
>>> deliver either
>>>   policy reconfiguration or feedback information from I2NSF Analyzer to
>>> Security
>>>   Controller.
>>> . Purpose: Experimental RFC
>>>
>>> - Guidelines for Security Policy Translation in Interface to Network
>>> Security Functions
>>> . URL:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yang-i2nsf-security-policy-translation/
>>> . Summary: This draft proposes the guidelines for security policy
>>> translation
>>>    in the I2NSF framework, that is, the translation from a high-level
>>> security policy
>>>    to the corresponding low-level security policy. It focuses on the
>>> mapping between
>>>    Consumer-Facing Interface and Network Security Function (NSF)-Facing
>>> Interface.
>>>
>>> The basic concepts of these works are proved through the I2NSF Hackathon
>>> Projects.
>>> The open-source I2NSF hackathon project is located at the Github:
>>> https://github.com/jaehoonpaul/i2nsf-framework
>>>
>>> I would like to submit those three drafts to the IETF independent
>>> submission stream this week:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/
>>>
>>> If you have comments on this matter, please let us know.
>>>
>>> I CC Eliot Lear who is the Independent Submissions Editor (ISE) in the
>>> IETF.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your support.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Paul
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