Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error handling simplification for initial I2RS protocol
Joe Clarke <jclarke@cisco.com> Thu, 15 October 2015 15:05 UTC
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From: Joe Clarke <jclarke@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error handling simplification for initial I2RS protocol
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On 10/14/15 23:20, Susan Hares wrote: > Joe: > > There will be some groups of data model have dependencies between objects. > Some Client interactions will be orthogonal to each other. If there are > groupings, then the dependencies may leave the I2RS agent and routing system > in an unknown state. Sure. > > The "all-or-nothing" is the normal case for NETCONF/RESTCONF. If clients are > based on the Netconf/RESTCONF code base, this will be the simple upward > change. RESTCONF does do all-or-none, but typically operations apply to one data element at a time. Clients would need to include multiple sub-operations for a, say, a PATCH. So, if I understand correctly, there would be burden on the Client that uses RESTCONF and multi-messages for a single "transaction" to handle the backout? Joe > > The I2RS agent needs to provide notification for error on writing for > priority conflict, and for other errors. The Stop-on-error would also need > to provide this input. > > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Clarke [mailto:jclarke@cisco.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:56 AM > To: Susan Hares; i2rs@ietf.org > Cc: jhaas@pfrc.org; 'Alia Atlas' > Subject: Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error handling > simplification for initial I2RS protocol > > On 10/13/15 04:57, Susan Hares wrote: >> Currently the I2RS requirements have error handling having three parts: >> >> 1)"all-or-nothing", >> >> 2)"continue-on-error", and >> >> 3)"stop-on-error". >> >> To provide an easier first step for the I2RS Agent for the first >> implementation of an I2RS protocol, the I2RS protocol design team >> suggests reduce this to the "all-or-nothing" for the initial version. >> Later versions of the I2RS protocol can provide the "continue-on-error" >> or "stop-on-error" error handling. The earlier decision in the I2RS >> architecture was to support all 3 error handling pieces. > > It seems to me the latter two would be easier to implement as the Client > continues to fire (until not told to do so in the stop-on-error case) and > the Agent wouldn't have to track all operations for rollback. > > Is the assumption that most I2RS transactions will have mutual dependencies, > and this is the most common error case? > > Joe >
- [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error handlin… Susan Hares
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Joe Clarke
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Susan Hares
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Joe Clarke
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Susan Hares
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Joe Clarke
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Susan Hares
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Susan Hares
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Susan Hares
- Re: [i2rs] Call for Input from WG: I2RS error han… Joe Clarke