Re: [Ianaplan] who or what is the proper authority to control the IANA domain and the trademark?

John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org> Mon, 10 November 2014 19:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ianaplan] who or what is the proper authority to control the IANA domain and the trademark?
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On Nov 9, 2014, at 3:15 PM, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> wrote:
> ...
> Perhaps a silly question, but what other organization(s)?  If not the IETF, and in parallel the other IANA stakeholders, then whom?

It's fairly easy to make an argument that the IETF would be 'the' appropriate
party to hold the IANA mark and domain name, given the fact that the IANA is 
the IETF's officially defined function for administering registries created 
out of its Internet protocol standards process.

Note, however, that it is equally easy to argue that ICANN, as the organization
that was formed specifically to house and coordinate of these functions, should 
be the appropriate party.  ICANN has evolved a bit since those days, both by 
bringing DNS policy development in-house and making that a major focus, as well
as (in conjunction with the IETF) phasing out the Protocol Support Organization 
(PSO)...

In the end, it may not matter that much who holds these items, so long as there
are arrangements which make clear that they should serve the entire IANA registry
community.  It is also apparent that the transparency and accountability aspects 
of the organization that holds these items must be beyond reproach, particularly
in a post-NTIA IANA functions contract world.

/John

Disclaimer: my views alone.