Re: [Iasa20] Diagrams of current vs. Option 2/3

Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Fri, 16 February 2018 19:07 UTC

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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:07:02 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Iasa20] Diagrams of current vs. Option 2/3
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Thanks for the clarifications, Ted.  Revised diagram removing Trust and
adding IAD on IAOC:

https://ipv.sx/iasa2.0/IASA-Strawman-NoTrust.pdf



On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> I note that your diagram includes the IETF Trust, which is not part of
> this discussion since it already had a separate legal existence.  I think
> it would be cleaner to remove it, especially since the relationship is not
> that the IAOC administers the IETF Trust, as this diagram describes it.
> The Trustees do; they simply are currently defined in terms of the trust.
> I agree that this would need adjustment if the IAOC disappeared, but that's
> really a very separate question than the core of the IASA 2.0 work.  On a
> related note, the IAD also serves as an ex-officio, non-voting member of
> the IAOC (that's why the IAD is a Trustee).
>
> Lastly, this is certainly one way to look at what might get created but it
> presumes some structures (like an advisory council and the IETF Admin Org
> board having some members selected by the board itself) which have not been
> in any of the proposals I've seen.  If the proposals out of the design team
> plan to include those, I think having them in drafts before London would be
> very useful.
>
> thanks,
>
> Ted
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> As we're considering the various options available, I thought I would
>> play cartoonist again (after contributing [1] earlier) and share some
>> diagrams of how processes might change if we go for one of the subsidiary
>> options (II or III in the memo from the lawyers).  Based on a whiteboard
>> that Alissa, Sean, and I sketched out one afternoon:
>>
>> https://ipv.sx/iasa2.0/IASA-Strawman.pdf
>>
>> Obviously, the details will need to change as a result of the legal
>> discussion, but I thought it would be useful to illustrate one possible
>> realization here.
>>
>> --Richard
>>
>> [1] https://ipv.sx/iasa2.0/IASA-org-charts.pdf
>>
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