Re: [Ice] Status of draft-ietf-ice-dualstack-fairness

"Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> Wed, 14 December 2016 04:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ice] Status of draft-ietf-ice-dualstack-fairness
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On 13 Dec 2016, at 21:16, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:

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>> &gt; Does anyone object to that course?
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>> I don't object. OTOH, given the time of year and the fact
> that there's little difference in 1 vs 2 weeks now, I'd
> say that a shorter LC has no real benefit right now so is
> maybe not worth it.
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> What Stephen said. 
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> I've certainly done second last calls as "does anyone object, with a 
> week timeout", but the question is whether shortening the timeout to a 
> week in this case helps with anything.
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The only advantage I see is finishing the LC before the holidays. Or at 
least before _my_ holidays, which makes it more likely I can act quickly 
on completion.

A 2 week last call would complete the week between Christmas and New 
Years, which would probably offer no more practical review time than a 1 
week LC.  (If I were to launch a _normal_ LC right now, I would probably 
give it 3 weeks due to holidays.)

Ben.