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Re: [Ice] I submitted and plan to present draft-thatcher-ice-remove-candidate in Berlin

"Pal Martinsen (palmarti)" <palmarti@cisco.com> Thu, 14 July 2016 06:26 UTC

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From: "Pal Martinsen (palmarti)" <palmarti@cisco.com>
To: Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com>
Thread-Topic: [Ice] I submitted and plan to present draft-thatcher-ice-remove-candidate in Berlin
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Subject: Re: [Ice] I submitted and plan to present draft-thatcher-ice-remove-candidate in Berlin
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P?l-Erik

On 13 Jul 2016, at 21:23, Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com<mailto:pthatcher@google.com>> wrote:



On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org<mailto:emcho@jitsi.org>> wrote:
Are there any cases where you think this would be useful other than abetter connection with a server?


?Yes: continual gathering (aka continuous nomination) would benefit from this.?



If all that is changing is the connection with the server then it sounds to me like we should rather come up with a way to update the local side of the binding and not bother the remote agent with it.

?That would be TURN mobility, or some new equivalent (?
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?the TURN mobility draft has expired).

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tram-turn-mobility/

Actually the TRAM WG have asked IESG to publish it.


That is an option that we'd like to explore implementing, but it's much more work to standardize, implement, and deploy (both on client and server).  Whereas this is a simply mechanism that is quick to standardize, implement, and deply, and it's useful for other things (as mentioned above).



Agree on that as well.




Emil


On Tuesday, 12 July 2016, Peter Thatcher <pthatcher@google.com<mailto:pthatcher@google.com>> wrote:
I submitted draft-thatcher-ice-remove-candidate and would like to speak about in my allotted time on the agenda when I will also be speaking about draft-thatcher-ice-network-cost and draft-thatcher-ice-renomination.

It's a very simple draft. Basically it says you can "remove" candidates just like trickle-ice allows you to add candidates. You could probably read it in 3 minutes. Please do so:

https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-thatcher-ice-remove-candidate-00.txt

Thanks,
Peter (Chair hat off)


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