Re: [icnrg] call for adoption of draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding

Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> Mon, 11 December 2023 11:55 UTC

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From: Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net>
To: Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda=40ieee.org@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 19:55:01 +0800
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Subject: Re: [icnrg] call for adoption of draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding
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Thanks for the replies – we'll adopt it and produce an draft-irtf-icnrg version before IETF-119.

Dirk


> I think the reflexive forwarding is very useful, and hence I support its adoption.
> (In fact, I have couple of comments and give them after finishing my current work.)
>
> Regards,
>
> Hitoshi
>
>
>> On Nov 22, 2023, at 11:00, Dirk Kutscher <ietf@dkutscher.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hello ICNRG,
>>
>> as discussed at IETF-118 in Prague, we want to assess the group's opinion on adopting draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding as an ICNRG work item.
>>
>> The draft has been evolving over the past months, and there are now implementations available and under development.
>>
>> The key idea of this draft is to enable interactions that are typically not well supported in ICN, such as remote method invocation, push etc. The reflexive forwarding approach would enable those in ICN-idiomatic ways, with some additions to forwarder functionality. It could be a platform for future experiments for transactional protocols, web applications etc.
>>
>> Please let us know before Wednesday, December 6th, 2023, whether you have any comments or concerns. Also let us know if you support adoption.
>>
>> Abstract:
>> Current Information-Centric Networking protocols such as CCNx and NDN
>> have a wide range of useful applications in content retrieval and
>> other scenarios that depend only on a robust two-way exchange in the
>> form of a request and response (represented by an Interest-Data
>> exchange in the case of the two protocols noted above). A number of
>> important applications however, require placing large amounts of data
>> in the Interest message, and/or more than one two-way handshake.
>> While these can be accomplished using independent Interest-Data
>> exchanges by reversing the roles of consumer and producer, such
>> approaches can be both clumsy for applications and problematic from a
>> state management, congestion control, or security standpoint. This
>> specification proposes a Reflexive Forwarding extension to the CCNx
>> and NDN protocol architectures that eliminates the problems inherent
>> in using independent Interest-Data exchanges for such applications.
>> It updates RFC8569 and RFC8609.
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-oran-icnrg-reflexive-forwarding/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dirk and Dave
>>
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