Re: [icnrg] Next steps on the 4G/LTE Draft
Luca Muscariello <luca.muscariello@gmail.com> Wed, 07 November 2018 09:09 UTC
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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 10:08:51 +0100
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Subject: Re: [icnrg] Next steps on the 4G/LTE Draft
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Hi, A few comments to the document: The motivation of this document seems weak. E.g. Why should I do all these changes? Worth the pain? Please find below a paper that may help to motivate that a little bit. The following paper is also a good citation and the author of this draft should compare at least with Sec V of it, where several deployment options where proposed including encapsulation in IP and GTP-U extension headers. This draft HAS to compare with those solutions. Beware that those solutions were Alcatel-Lucent IPR and should be Nokia IPR now. There might be Orange SA IPR as well. If necessary I could check myself. Until that comparison is not made, I feel this draft SHOULD NOT go through a final call. G. Carofiglio, M. Gallo, L. Muscariello and D. Perino, "Scalable mobile backhauling via information-centric networking," *The 21st IEEE International Workshop on Local and Metropolitan Area Networks*, Beijing, 2015, pp. 1-6. Minor: This text is either wrong or inaccurate. Or maybe, it is so short that is prone to misguided interpretation. An alternative approach to implement ICN over IP is provided in Hybrid ICN [HICN], which implements ICN over IP by mapping of ICN names to the IPv4/IPv6 addresses. HTH Luca On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 7:51 AM David R. Oran <daveoran@orandom.net> wrote: > At the ICNRG Interim meeting at IETF 103, we got an update status on > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-icnrg-icn-lte-4g/ > > This document is reaching a mature state and the chairs would like to get > a sense from the RG participants on two questions: > > 1. > > Do you think this is ready for an RG last call, and if not, what > additions/changes you would like to see to move it forward. > 2. > > Do you think the appropriate target for this particular set of work is > the “Informational” or “Experimental RFC track. It seems to fall somewhat > in a grey area between the two. > > Please reply to the list. We would like to have feedback by the end of > next week or so (November 17). > > Dave, Dirk, & Börje. > _______________________________________________ > icnrg mailing list > icnrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/icnrg >
- [icnrg] Next steps on the 4G/LTE Draft David R. Oran
- Re: [icnrg] Next steps on the 4G/LTE Draft Luca Muscariello
- Re: [icnrg] Next steps on the 4G/LTE Draft Trossen, Dirk
- Re: [icnrg] Next steps on the 4G/LTE Draft Rahman, Akbar
- Re: [icnrg] Next steps on the 4G/LTE Draft Anil Jangam (anjangam)
- Re: [icnrg] Next steps on the 4G/LTE Draft Akbar Rahman
- Re: [icnrg] Next steps on the 4G/LTE Draft Luca Muscariello