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Re: [Ideas] draft-padma-ideas-problem-statement and "Common Infrastructure"

Padma Pillay-Esnault <padma.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 05 July 2017 14:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ideas] draft-padma-ideas-problem-statement and "Common Infrastructure"
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Hi Bob

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> On Jul 5, 2017, at 06:35, Robert Moskowitz <rgm-ietf@htt-consult.com> wrote:
> 
> Disclaimer:  I had a hand in edits to this version, though I am not listed in the Ack section.  In particular I pushed for "Common Infrastructure", not "Common Control Plane".

See contributors section.
> 
> We have been talking a lot about Identity and Identifier and metadata.  One of the tasks of this workgroup (and charter item) needs to be data modeling of what is intended to be stored/available.
> 
Agree

> Further there needs to be Yet Another Gap Analysis (YAGA?  :) ) on why NOT LDAP or some other mature xyz data store access protocol.  I start with LDAP as there is actually a fit, and the various server implementations are very mature with good, secure, backends and data replication tools.
> 
> It is time to start thinking charter.  The problem statement, gap analysis, and use cases is barely a start.  What the group is going to DO is focus now.
> 
> So I propose two work items:
> 
> Common Infrastructure data modeling (and someone other than me can do it in YANG).
> Common Infrastructure protocol requirements with a subsection on LDAP comparision.
> 
So we will need some volunteers to work on this

Padma
> Bob
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