Re: UTF-8 in Internet Drafts (was Re: [idn] I-D ACTION:draft-jseng-idn-admin-01.txt)

[Martin Duerst <[e-mail]>]

I have to fully agree with Mark. Getting the policy changed would
be great. For James' document, the us-ascii version is just a bunch
of numbers. No help to those who
don't know Chinese characters, and no help to those who do. Just
a waste of bits and paper, even if the topic may be
important and interesting.

I also was asked to put a lot of examples into draft-duerst-iri.
Very tough indeed, because these would have to be non-ASCII examples.

I think as a first step, the IETF should start to accept drafts
in parallel in US-ASCII and UTF-8 (the later with an extension of
.tx8 or so). I'm very sure both Mark and me would be ready to help
the IETF and the secretariat to get there.

I also had some discussions with Marshal Rose in Yokohama to
extend the XML2RFC format a bit so that 'the right thing' would
happen for both versions. We didn't get very far yet, but
should pick it up again.

Regards,    Martin.


At 21:17 02/10/22 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:
>I didn't say the *IDN WG* itself could change that. What I said was
>"Would there be any way to get the policy on the format of internet
>drafts to be amended to allow UTF-8? It is pretty painful trying to
>read documents when the actual characters cannot be used."
>
>I have no idea what the process that the Powers That Be have for
>deciding the formats for internet drafts. I simply hope that that
>policy gets changed, since it has gotten to the point that anyone who
>wants to can read and write UTF-8 documents; various tools to do so
>are free and easily available.
>
>Mark
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>From: "Paul Hoffman / IMC" <[e-mail]>
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> > Wait, wait! This is the *wrong place* for this debate.
> >
> > The IETF has fixed guidelines for submitting Internet Drafts. We
> > cannot change those guidelines in the IDN WG.
> >
> > --Paul Hoffman, Director
> > --Internet Mail Consortium
> >