Re: [idn] Supporting list for Draft-liana

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From: "tsenglm@計網中心.中大.tw" <tsenglm@cc.ncu.edu.tw>
To: James Seng/Personal <James@Seng.cc>, liana.ydisg@juno.com
Cc: harald@alvestrand.no, liana.ydisg@juno.com, idn@ops.ietf.org
References: <20010906.005857.-655455.0.liana.ydisg@juno.com> <016201c136a8$81325690$dd00a8c0@jamessonyvaio>
Subject: Re: [idn] Supporting list for Draft-liana
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 17:16:54 +0800
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Hi! Jamaes:
                 I have read the draft of STEP code version 0.0 and Liana
actually give me her new concepts in new version to improve it and ask me to
support this new draft. Because I am not  familar with PinYin method how to
resolve to only one name, so I just give her some example in web server to
reference.
                 In China, user use Roma PinYing character in address BAR to
represent the keyword name to visit web server. All these PinYin characters
are in LDH range, so it is very natural to represent chinese character in
this way if it can resolve the conflicts. So, why we can not support the
idea to present them in here ?   At least , the pronuncing of  CJK character
is different in China, Japan and Korean.

L.M.Tseng

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Seng/Personal" <James@Seng.cc>
To: <liana.ydisg@juno.com>
Cc: <harald@alvestrand.no>; <liana.ydisg@juno.com>; <idn@ops.ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [idn] Supporting list for Draft-liana


> No defined guideline but it is expected the people should at least be wg
> members. I could ask my mom, my father, my bro and my wife to support my
> XXX draft but people is obviously going to question the validity of the
> support.
>
> The restriction is there for a purpose, ie, to focus the wg on certain
> topic which is of interest to them. Abusing the system to put your ideas
> into the wg may work but in the long run, it does not help you in
> anyway. Ultimately, whether one draft get accepted still depends on the
> rest of the wg members support, not your just 7 supporter.
>
> -James Seng
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <liana.ydisg@juno.com>
> To: <James@Seng.cc>
> Cc: <harald@alvestrand.no>; <liana.ydisg@juno.com>; <idn@ops.ietf.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [idn] Supporting list for Draft-liana
>
>
> > The list is only my collection of names several weeks
> > ago and they all have my latest draft at that time.  Only
> > one of them are the latest one added on the list, which
> > I was in the process of updating and thinking to send that
> > out for comments before summitting.  I also use this
> > list for related e-mail, that was the reason, it is
> > accidently landed in to out-box somehow.  Due to
> > unexpected delay, I need more time to reorganize the
> > draft,  however.
> >
> > No, not all of the names are actively participating in
> > the WG discussion, but all of them are in computer,
> > computational linguistic or computation fields with at
> > least 5 years of working experiences as far as I know.
> > Are there guide lines on who is qualified to give support?
> >
> > Liana
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:32:31 +0800 "James Seng/Personal"
> <James@Seng.cc>
> > writes:
> > > If this is the case, I question the support these 10 people give for
> > > your draft? How can one support something which he/she didnt even
> > > seen
> > > before?
> > >
> > > Secondly, I notice quite a few names which I am not familiar on this
> > > list. Are they IDN wg members?
> > >
> > > -James Seng
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <liana.ydisg@juno.com>
> > > To: <harald@alvestrand.no>
> > > Cc: <liana.ydisg@juno.com>; <idn@ops.ietf.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 12:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [idn] Supporting list for Draft-liana
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am sorry about this post.
> > > >
> > > > That message went out accidentally, since
> > > > I have not get everything ready for draft-liana-idn-step-01.txt.
> > > > I am waiting for a transliteration document from
> > > >  Wanshington D.C.  Since I am working on  a new draft,
> > > > the draft-ietf-idn-step-01.txt has to go though
> > > > more modifications before I will release it.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry about the accident.
> > > >
> > > > Liana
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:51:05 +0200 Harald Tveit Alvestrand
> > > > <harald@alvestrand.no> writes:
> > > > > I am afraid I do not understand this.
> > > > > How can there be support for a draft that does not exist?
> > > > >
> > > > > (there is no draft-liana in the I-D directories)
> > > > >
> > > > >              Harald
> > > > >
> > > > > --On 4. september 2001 18:43 -0700 liana.ydisg@juno.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Respected IDN WG colleagues:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   We have  10 email supports for submitting
> > > > > > draft-liana-idn-step-1.txt for your consideration.  The new
> > > > > > draft name is draft-ietf-idn-step-1.txt following the WG draft
> > > > > > submision procedure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Liana Ye
> > > > > >
> > > > > > William Davis  davis@smccd.net
> > > > > > Ben Chan  ben@cc-www.com
> > > > > > Aaron IRVINE  aaron@lingvo.org
> > > > > > NormanYe@aol.com
> > > > > >  "Xiaoping Diao" <DIAO@wapa.gov>
> > > > > > ---------------
> > > > > > I support the submission of draft-liana-idn-step-1.txt to
> > > > > > IETF for IDN working group on ACE solution consideration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Zhihong Zhang
> > > > > > AOL Technology
> > > > > > 703-265-2522
> > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > From: "Yan, David" <David.Yan@VerizonWireless.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Liana,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am so glad to read your mail and your proposal. It is good
> > > > > technology
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > the web services. I support submission of
> > > > > draft-liana-idn-step-1.txt to
> > > > > > IETF for IDN working group on ACE solution consideration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regard,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David Yan
> > > > > > Sr. Member Technical Staff
> > > > > > Verizon Wireless
> > > > > > ------------
> > > > > > We support submission of draft-liana-idn-step-1.txt to
> > > > > > IETF for IDN working group on ACE solution consideration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Liang Yan  liangy@optonline.net
> > > > > > Xiong Huang xhuang@elm.mt.att.com
> > > > > > Xu Hongbo  hbxu@ncic.ac.cn
> > > > > >
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