Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-06.txt
John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com> Wed, 06 January 2010 14:11 UTC
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From: John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-06.txt
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WFM --On Wednesday, January 06, 2010 14:58 +0100 Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote: > John C Klensin wrote: >> --On Tuesday, October 06, 2009 07:07 -0400 Vint Cerf >> <vint@google.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Martin, >>> >>> in that case, let's see whether we have consensus around >>> simply explaining >>> that not all CS are permitted by BiDi and that both tables >>> and bidi rules are needed >>> to implement IDNA2008 as intended. >>> >> >> To keep this in perspective, there are several other >> categories in the lists in Bidi from which only a very small >> number of characters are permitted by Tables. In the case >> of CS, the "small number" is zero but, unless the readers >> understand that they need to go to Tables for specific >> permitted character information, they might be equally >> confused. >> >> So, IMO, the correct statement is something like "not all >> characters from the listed categories are permitted by BiDi >> and... as intended". I don't think CS is special in that >> regard. >> > I am now integrating changes suggested during Last Call review > so that a new version can be emitted as soon as the IESG says > "no other issues". > > In response to this issue, I have added the following > statement to the introduction: > > The other normative documents in the IDNA2008 document > set establish criteria for valid labels, including listing the > permitted > characters. This document establishes > additional validity criteria for labels in scripts normally > written > from right to left. > > I think that's what the document was saying all along, but it > doesn't hurt to be over-explicit, especially given the > reactions to "CS" that we've seen on the list. > > Is that clear enough? >> john >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Idna-update mailing list >> Idna-update@alvestrand.no >> http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/idna-update >> >> >
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… John C Klensin
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… John C Klensin
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Vint Cerf
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Kenneth Whistler
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Erik van der Poel
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Kenneth Whistler
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Vint Cerf
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… John C Klensin
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Vint Cerf
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Matitiahu Allouche
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… John C Klensin
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Vint Cerf
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Vint Cerf
- Re: [iucg] [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabi… Marie-France Berny
- Re: [iucg] [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabi… jean-michel bernier de portzamparc
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… John C Klensin
- Re: [iucg] [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabi… Patrick Suger
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Elisabeth Blanconil
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Vint Cerf
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… John C Klensin
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Gen-art] LC review: draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-… Martin J. Dürst