Re: [Idr] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis (7/9/2021 to 7/25/2021)

"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com> Thu, 22 July 2021 15:46 UTC

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From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, "idr@ietf.org" <idr@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis (7/9/2021 to 7/25/2021)
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I support publication of this draft.
It addresses many real world issues seen over the years in actual implementations.

   Les

From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Susan Hares
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Subject: [Idr] 2 Week WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis (7/9/2021 to 7/25/2021)

This begins a 2 week WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-07.txt.
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis/)

This draft is a revision of the RFC7752 on the Distribution of Link-State and Traffic Engineering Information Using BGP (BGP-LS) based on experience over the last 12 years since the 2009 publication of the RFC.

There is a 3rd party IPR statement on this draft.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3623/

In your comments, please consider:
1.  Is this draft ready for publication?
2. Does this represent the status of deployed implementations?
3. Are there any critical corrections to RFC7752 which have been left out?
4. What extensions should be left to future BGP-LS drafts?

This draft is being shepherded by all 3 IDR chairs.

Cheerily, Sue Haqres