Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-05 being WGLC'd in sidr

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Fri, 21 September 2012 05:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-05 being WGLC'd in sidr
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Hi John,

The proposal of dropping AS_PATH and the intention to completely replace 
it with AS_SEC_PATH attribute has been negatively commented so many 
times in the past both on idr and sidr that by bringing just one thread 
below seems like erasing all other comments.

The issues are not only related to routing .. they are also related to 
number of BGP monitoring stations deployed today which use AS_PATH 
attribute for real time BGP analysis. Do you expect all of those tools 
to change/be updated when IETF will publish path validation RFC ?

To only bring few past comments:

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg04693.html
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg04695.html
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg04701.html
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg04721.html
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg04722.html

Regards,
R.

> Folks,
>
> FYI draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-05 being WGLC'd in sidr. This
> draft, assuming it progresses, represents a significant update to the
> BGP protocol, notably in terms of AS_PATH handling. If you haven't
> looked at it already, please consider taking the time to do so.
>
> Comments should go to both the sidr@ietf.org and idr@ietf.org mailing
> lists.
>
> There has already been some discussion of the draft on the sidr
> mailing list. Archives are here
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sidr/current/msg05062.html
>
> --John
>
> P.S.: If you intend to review it but need more time, please speak up,
> and say how much more time you will need.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "Murphy, Sandra" <Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com> Subject: [sidr]
>> WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-05 Date: September 15,
>> 2012 7:45:13 AM EDT To: "sidr@ietf.org" <sidr@ietf.org>
>>
>> This starts a working group last call for
>> draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-05.  The draft is available at
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-05 and
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol/
>>
>> Please review this draft to see if you think it is ready for
>> publication.  Send end comments to the list.
>>
>> The WGLC will end on 29 September 2012.
>>
>> --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair
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