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Re: [Idr] BGP Message level ACKs

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Wed, 08 March 2023 15:31 UTC

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From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] BGP Message level ACKs
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Hi,

On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 04:24:31PM +0100, Robert Raszuk wrote:
> Let me start a complete new thread on this.
> 
> Jeff well said in the discussion about sendhioldtimer:
> 
> "Addressing "has the application consumed the data it was sent" is out of
> scope here.  If you want it in scope, you'll require an explicit BGP ACK
> message."
> 
> So what would WG think about adding it to BGP ? While perhaps a terrible
> idea in the light of sendholdtimer topic and using TCP as a transport,
> perhaps not so bad in the light of using UDP transport for BGP (for
> example: native QUIC (not a reliable session mode or the like)).
> 
> And if so the side effect of it may be a solution to current problems some
> folks are reporting ...

This will require upgrade on both sides, and is a much more invasive
change.

While I do like the idea, it should not be taken as an excuse to not
proceed with send-hold-timer.

Gert Doering
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