Re: [Idr] [Lsvr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-SPF
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Sun, 22 July 2018 17:16 UTC
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From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 12:16:20 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Idr] [Lsvr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-SPF
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Hi Randy, thank you for the quick response to my question. BFD monitors path continuity at the layer 3, though there's BFD over LAG that picks into the layer 2. One cannot differentiate between liveness of the remote system and availability of the path between two systems. If we are not interested whether packets from the particular source and only that source received, then we use path continuity check protocol. BFD is the example of the CC while CFM, Layer 2, is the connectivity verification. Regards, Greg On Sun, Jul 22, 2018, 10:42 Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote: > > hope an easy question you'll help me with. Liveness as path continuity > > check or as connectivity verification. > > layer 2 link liveness. we have other tools above layer 2; e.g. bfd. > > randy >
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- Re: [Idr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-SPF Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
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- Re: [Idr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-SPF Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-SPF Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Idr] [Lsvr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-S… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Idr] [Lsvr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-S… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] [Lsvr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-S… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] [Lsvr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-S… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Idr] [Lsvr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-S… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] [Lsvr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-S… Greg Mirsky