[Idr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-SPF

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Subject: [Idr] Why L2 liveness needed for BGP-SPF
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Hi all,

I just watched the IDR meeting record at https://play.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/?session=IETF102-IDR-20180719-1810

I'm in favor of the AD's recommendation of finding a unified proposal rather than two different proposals doing almost the same thing. BGP-SPF is intended to be a link-state protocol built on the BGP base protocol and L3 liveness works fine for link-state protocols (eg., OSPF). Hence I'm curious about the reason why L2 liveness is a must for BGP-SPF.  In other word, what's special for BGP-SPF as a link-state protocol that makes it have such "nice constrained problem"?

By the way, provided that BGP-SPF did need L2 liveness which in turn is expected by some BGP-SPF guys to be generic and therefore be applicable to other scenarios beyond BGP, wouldn't IEEE be a better place to pursue such generic L2 liveness mechanism?

Best regards,
Xiaohu