Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy-17.txt

Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 15 June 2022 17:54 UTC

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From: Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 23:24:37 +0530
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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy-17.txt
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Hi Sue,

Thanks for your review and feedback.

Please check inline for responses.


On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 1:54 AM Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

> Stefano, Clarence, Ketan, Paul, Dhanendra and Steven:
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> Thank  you for your continued support in standardizing this specification.
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> My latest shepherd’s report is based on -17.txt.
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> It has 3 parts: implementation report issues, technical issues, and
> editorial nits.
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> Please let me know if you have any questions.
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> As always, I welcome the opportunity to chat with one or all of the
> authors to
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> quickly resolve any issues.
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> Sue Hares
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> Implementation report issues
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> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy%20implementations%20
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> According to this implementations report, we do not have any
> implementations that support:
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> TLV 15, 20, 129, and 130 in the following report:
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> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/idr/wiki/draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy%20implementations%20
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KT> Yes, that is correct AFAIK.


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> The following is missing from the basic implementation report:
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> 1) Is Error handling in section 5 is included in the base support?
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KT> Yes.


> 2) What Segment type SubTLVs (Segment type A-K) have been implemented in
> these implementations?
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KT> AFAIK all the listed implementations support the Type A (i.e. MPLS
Label). I believe one of the implementations also support SRv6 SID. I will
request the WG members from the vendors to update the implementation report
(or drop me and the IDR chairs an email so we can update on your behalf).


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> After you provide these details, I will query the IDR WG to determine if
> the
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> IDR finds this level of support sufficient to pass the document as is to
> the IESG.
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> Technical issues (Shepherd’s report)
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> 1) Color Extended community (section 3)
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> Level of Issue: small if NLRIs with SAFI 73 (AFI=1/SAFI=73, AFI=2/SAFI=73)
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> The Color Extended community specifies setting the bit flags in the Color
> Extended Community [RFC9012] section 4.3.  However, you are specifying
> setting the flag bits which RFC9012 specifies you must set to zero.
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KT> RFC9012 introduced the Flags field but did not define any flags and
hence the set to zero -
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9012#section-4.3. This document
updates RFC9012 by defining some of those flag bits.


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> Are you defining the color Extended Community only for the AFI/SAFI pairs
> defined in this document?
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> AFI=1/SAFI=73, AFI=2, SAFI=73
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KT> No. They apply to BGP service routes mostly (e.g. L3VPN, EVPN, etc.).


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> If so, please add to the text of section 3 (and sprinkle in where
> appropriate in the RFC)
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> that these additions to the Color Extended Community are specific to these
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> NLRI (AFI=1/SAFI=2).
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> If not, please explain carefully which NLRI (AFI/SAFI pairs) your
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> Additions to Extended Community apply to.
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KT> Is this really required? RFC9012 which specifies the Color Extended
Community did not impose any limitations on the AFI/SAFI to be used. The
usage described in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9012#section-8
is similar.


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> 2)  Technical issue (sections 2.4.4.1, 2.4.4.2, 2.4.4.9, 2.4.4.10, and
> 2.4.4.11
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> Level: Small  – just needs tightening the text
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> The following ranges need to be specified:
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> a) weight value – give range or indicate any bit pattern [section
> 2.4.4.1),
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KT> The reference to the SR Policy draft provides this info and we did not
want to repeat it here.


> b) section 2.4.4.2.2 (segment B)
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> Old/length is variable/
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> New/length is variable (18 if SRv6 Endpoint and SID structure field is not
> included, 24 if the field is included). /
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> Note: You may modify wording if the length values are specified.
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> Please make similar  changes to specify valid lengths in section 2.4.4.9
> (segment I) and
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> Section 2.4.4.2.10 (Segment J) and  the ranges of valid lengths in
> 2.4.4.11 (segment K).
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KT> Whether the "SRv6 Endpoint and SID structure field" is present or not
is indicated by the B-Flag in the Segment Flags field and not by the
length. I feel it is more appropriate to keep it variable. In some of the
segment types, there are more than one optional field and so a few
combinations.


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> Editorial nits:
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> 1) abstract –
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> Old text:/This document defines a new BGP SAFI with a new NLRI/
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> Question:  Since you are defining this with two pairs (AFI=1/SAFI=73,
> AFI=2, SAFI=73),
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> IMHO, this is two NLRI formats.  It is a small point, but this editorial
> nit
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> Is sprinkled across all the pages.
>

KT> Ack. Will fix.


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> 2) section 1 paragraph 8, starting with “this document defines a new BGP
> Address family.
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> You are defining two new AFI/SAFI pairs using a new Subsequent Address
> Family Identifier (SAFI)
>

KT> Ack. Will fix.


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> Please adjust this paragraph to be consistent with current technology.
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> Review paragraphs 10 (starting “Typically, “) and paragraph 14 (starting
> “The BGP Extensions”).
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> for the same error.
>

KT> I did not understand the error that you are referring to on para 10.
Fixed for para 14.


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> 3) English errors in Introduction
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> Old Text: /
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> Typically a controller defines the set of policies and advertise
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> them to policy head-end routers (typically ingress routers).  The/
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> New text:/
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> Typically a controller defines the set of policies and advertises
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> them to policy head-end routers(typically ingress routers).  These /
>

KT> Will fix.

Thanks,
Ketan


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