Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-oid-01 as IDR WG document
Keyur Patel <keyupate@cisco.com> Wed, 16 May 2012 21:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-oid-01 as IDR WG document
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Yep. In that case, the enforce-first-as text [RFC5575] could be relaxed and modified as well (We would need a uniform enforce-first-as policy between the flowspec and unicast afi/safis and that would work when comparing aspaths). Regards, Keyur On 5/16/12 2:24 PM, "Robert Raszuk" <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: > Hi Keyur, > > Actually you bring a good point. Going by section 6 would preclude > reception of flow-spec routes across IX route servers as in those cases > enforcing-first-as must be disabled on the IX client. > > Perhaps as you suggest we should replace section 6 of current 5575 with > the full AS_PATH check regardless if enforce-first-as is in effect there > or not. > > Comments ? > > Thx, > R. > >> One comment and one question on the draft. >> >> 1) I believe the rule should cover checks for AS4_PATH as well. >> >> 2) Section 6 from RFC5575 >> >> <snip> >> BGP implementations MUST also enforce that the AS_PATH attribute of a >> route received via the External Border Gateway Protocol (eBGP) >> contains the neighboring AS in the left-most position of the AS_PATH >> attribute. While this rule is optional in the BGP specification, it >> becomes necessary to enforce it for security reasons. >> <snip> >> >> Do we need to do a complete aspath check instead? Otherwise, a neighboring >> AS can inject a bogus flowspec route? >> >> Regards, >> Keyur >> >> >> On 5/16/12 1:19 PM, "Robert Raszuk"<robert@raszuk.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I support the adoption of this draft as WG document. >>> >>> However the new text authors added between -00 and -01 seems too >>> restrictive to the original theme/direction. >>> >>> It says: >>> >>> ".. or the AS_PATH attribute of the flow specification is empty." >>> >>> That precludes injecting and honoring the flow routes even within the >>> same administrative domain in the presence of confederations. >>> >>> I recommend that this limitation should be removed in next version. >>> >>> Regards, >>> R. > > >
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Keyur Patel
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Keyur Patel
- [Idr] draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-oid-01.txt Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-oid-01.txt Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-oid-… John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Keyur Patel
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Randy Bush
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… Shyam Sethuram (shsethur)
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Adoption of draft-djsmith-bgp-flowspec-… David Smith (djsmith)