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Re: [Idr] Adoption call for BGP Auto-Configuration drafts (5/1 to 5/23/2022) - 3 weeks

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From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
CC: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, "idr@ietf.org" <idr@ietf.org>
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On 5/5/22, 3:34 PM, "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com> wrote:

    >> draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl + draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-ulpc:
    >> - Operates at Layer 2.
    >> - Security varies from optional to certificate based.
    >> - Provides its own session layer as part of the protocol.
    >> 
    >> I don¢t feel that adoption of BGP LLDP discovery would preclude
    >> adoption of this discovery protocol. However, I don¢t have a strong
    >> opinion or whether it should run over its own session layer or TCP.
    > 
    >     as L3 IP addressing is not known at that point, be darned hard to
    >     establish a TCP connection. :)
    > 
    > Unfortunately, I see you snipped the rest of the Email.... I hate
    > people who do that as much as you dislike when people use Outlook

    i do not hate people who use outlook; though i would not use it myself.
    and i hope you do not really hate me.  but whatever.

Opps. I meant "when" and not "who" so, no, I don't hate you... 

Thanks,
Acee

    > I hadn't read this draft yet but the summary implies that it includes
    > both multicast discovery and TCP.
    > 
    > draft-ymbk-idr-l3dn + draft-ymbk-idr-l3dn-ulpc
    > - Operates at Layer 3 with a link-local multicast component, and a unicast
    >  component.
    > - Security varies from optional to using certificate based with TLS.
    > - Uses TCP for session layer for its unicast component.

    quite right.  different set of drafts.  you can have chocolate or
    vanilla, L2 or L3, we serve both.  :)

    randy

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