Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode
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To: Susan Hares <skh@nexthop.com>
Cc: Alex Zinin <azinin@nexsi.com>, randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, fenner@research.att.com, idr@merit.edu
Subject: Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode
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> 3)bgp exponential back-off One operator's view: The vendor we use for our peering and backbone boxes doesn't implement this feature. However, we would like it. What usually happens when we have a flapping BGP session, due to say, a bad circuit, is someone is forced to come in and shut it down manually, then bring it back up at some point when the circuit is stable again. With exponential backoff the lengths of the retrys would rapidly get to the point where human intervention to shut the session down manually would not be required. And the box would still try to bring up the session occasionally, eliminating the "Oops, I forgot to bring that back up" problem. As for the FSM, were we to have this feature we would demand a command from the vendor that would indicate what the status of the backoff is. So when we did a "sh ip bgp summ" we could see either that it was transitioned to idle for x reason and it had y seconds/minutes/hours remaining. The proposal to call that state "IdleHold" is a sound one. Although if it were called ("Idle - Hold Flag Set" or something that would be fine too.) And yes, we would want both the state and the time remaining in the MIB. Preferably, if the state were IdleHold, we would have a "try #, # of seconds remaining, # of seconds in this retry interval. Eg: BackoffAttemptNumber: 5 BackoffSecondsRemaining: 38 BackoffSecondsTotalThisAttempt: 960 And being the generally knob-happy types we operators are :), a max-backoff value or the like would be good as an enhancement. Andrew
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: Comments on FSM Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Vincent Gillet
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Vincent Gillet
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: Comments on FSM Jeffrey Haas
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode andrewl
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Randy Bush
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: Comments on FSM Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Randy Bush
- Re: Comments on FSM Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Comments on FSM Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Enke Chen
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Greg Hankins
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Kunihiro Ishiguro
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Jeffrey Haas
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Alex Zinin
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Eric Gray
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Eric Gray
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Jeff Pickering
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Vincent Gillet
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Russ White
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Susan Hares
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Yakov Rekhter
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Jeffrey Haas
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Yakov Rekhter
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Tom Petch
- Re: bgp4-17 Cease subcode Yakov Rekhter
- bgp4-17 Cease subcode Tom Petch
- Re: processing order of reach/unreach in rfc2858b… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: processing order of reach/unreach in rfc2858b… Enke Chen