Subject: Removing Working Group Members

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There is a process by which petitions can be submitted to remove working group 
chairs.  Is there are process to remove unruly members of the working group? 
 
If not, should there be such a process? 
 
 
Regards, 
 
Paul 
 
 
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Paul Lambert                     Director of Security Products 
Oracle Corporation                       Phone: (415) 506-0370 
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Date: 19 Mar 96 09:57:40
From:"Fred Baker " <ipsec-request@neptune.tis.com>
To: iesg@ietf.cnri.reston.va.us
Subject: Re: Your Appeal to me regarding replacing IPSEC WG Chair(s)
Cc: ipsec@tis.com
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At 8:09 AM 3/19/96, William Allen Simpson wrote:
>Since you failed to answer _any_ of the specifics raised in my appeal,
>and both of your negative findings are factually unsupported, I will
>appeal to the IESG as a whole, pursuant to our Standards Process.

I am prepared to send something like the following to Bill: comments?

______________________________________________________________________
Bill:

We have received your appeal. In fact, Jeff's comments do not come from him
alone, but were discussed among us in person at the IETF and by email over
the last week. His comments represent our consensus.

It is the considered opinion of the IESG that the working group chairs
hould remain in place, and that you should restrict your position, in this
context, to that of a member of the IPSEC working group.

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