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Re: [Ietf-dkim] Proposals for tolerating mailing list modifications

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Sat, 05 August 2023 16:05 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2023 09:05:42 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-dkim] Proposals for tolerating mailing list modifications
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On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:46 PM Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:

> Well, for starters ARC doesn't have broad deployment. But the author
> doesn't say why ARC is needed or relevant. That is the point here. *All*
> changes need to be justified including any imported mechanisms. The less
> rat holes the better. Same with the mailing list modification draft. Why is
> that even relevant?
>

With respect to ARC: There's a difference between asking for justification
and demanding that the discussion be stopped before it even starts.  One of
those is not okay.

With respect to the MLM draft: Since this is the only IETF list that covers
DKIM specifically, that makes it a reasonable venue for raising
DKIM-related ideas that might exceed the charter.  I would agree that this
WG shouldn't take up any DKIM topics not related to the replay problem, but
I don't see an issue with announcing in this venue that you have an idea
and invite discussion off-list or in some other venue for as long as this
list is allocated to an active working group.

-MSK, ART AD

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