Re: [Ietf-languages] Language subtag registration form

Dear all,
Thank you for your answers and comments. I am glad to see that my proposal
is considered and has triggered a debate. Personally, I think Latino Sine
Flexione can be considered as being either a variant form of Latin or a
language of its own right, but ISO 639 maintenance agencies do not seem to
think so, so I considering it as a Latin variant is probably the less
complicated option.
I tried to rewrite the registration form in conformity with your remarks.
Is it better now ?

LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: P. Masih

2. E-mail address of requester: pmasih779@gmail.com

3. Record Requested:

Type: Variant

Subtag: peano

Description: Latino Sine Flexione

             (alternately Interlingua de API

              or Interlingua de Peano)

Prefix: la

Preferred-Value:

Deprecated:

Suppress-Script:

Comments: Peano’s Interlingua, created in 1903

by Giuseppe Peano as an international auxiliary language

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

Reference to the creator of the language, Giuseppe Peano

5. Reference to published description

of the language (book or article):

* Giuseppe Peano (1903), De Latino sine flexione, lingua auxiliare

internationale, in Revista de Mathematica:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/35803/35803-h/35803-h.htm

* Manuale practico de interlingua (1913):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Manuale_Practico.pdf

*Giuseppe Peano (1915), Vocabulario commune ad Latino-Italiano-

Français-English-Deutsch:

https://sites.google.com/site/latinosineflexio/-1915-vocabulario-pre

* Key to Interlingua (1931):

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.165785/page/n1/mode/2up

* Daniele Gouthier, Nico Pitrelli and Ivan Pupolizio (2002),

Mathematicians and the perfect language: Giuseppe Peano’s case,

in Journal of Science Communication:

https://jcom.sissa.it/sites/default/files/documents/jcom0101(2002)A03.pdf

* Vera Barandovska-Frank (2003), De Latino sine Flexione Centenario

also:

* http://nuntios.blogspot.com/search/label/Latino%20sine%20Flexione

* https://acproil.github.io/

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latino_sine_flexione

* http://www.oocities.org/athens/olympus/2948/

* https://archive.org/search.php?query=latino%20sine%20flexione

6. Any other relevant information:

Not recognized as a full language by maintenance agencies of ISO 639.

See https://iso639-3.sil.org/request/2017-022

Le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 à 20:45, John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> a écrit :

> I think "Interlingua de APL" and "Interlingua de Peano" should be added as
> alternate descriptions.  Those names distinguish it from the later and more
> popular Interlingua de IALA, whose subtag is 'ia'.  You could translate
> these descriptions as "Interlingua (Academy for Interlingua)" and
> "Interlingua (Peano)".  But since nobody calls it "Latin Without
> Inflections", we might as well stick to endonyms that are actually in use.
>
> Peano certainly intended it to be easy to read if you knew Latin or a
> major Romance language, so I think calling it a dialect of Latin is fair.
> In any case, if we made it a separate language it would take a year to get
> past the 639 RA, and if they rejected it we'd have to think about whether
> we want to use our never-used power to add a language subtag on our own.
>
> I think "la-peano" is very clear as a tag, though the Romans would
> certainly have a fit about the language and maybe make us write "Romani,
> ite domum" (instead of "Romanos, i ad domo") on the wall a hundred times.
> ("I" is irritatingly short for a Latin verb, which is why it has all kinds
> of suppletive forms in the Romance languages taken from more reasonable
> verbs.  Perhaps Peano should have special-cased it.)
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:20 AM Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> wrote:
>
>> I personally believe the changes from actual Latin to Latino Sine
>> Flexione are too great to consider the latter merely a variant of the
>> former.. But others can pick up that debate.
>>
>> The form itself seems fine, except that the Description field should be
>> capitalized, and "inflections" is a somewhat more common English spelling
>>
>> --
>> Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org
>>
>>
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