Re: Anomaly in upcoming registry

"Doug Ewell" <doug@ewellic.org> Mon, 29 June 2009 13:05 UTC

Return-Path: <doug@ewellic.org>
X-Original-To: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no
Delivered-To: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E8C39E667 for <ietf-languages@alvestrand.no>; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:05:10 +0200 (CEST)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eikenes.alvestrand.no
Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VG3hL0J8MsBg for <ietf-languages@alvestrand.no>; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:05:06 +0200 (CEST)
X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.6.8
Received: from pechora2.lax.icann.org (pechora2.icann.org [208.77.188.37]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 774F639E243 for <ietf-languages@alvestrand.no>; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:05:06 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.47]) by pechora2.lax.icann.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id n5TD4e4a006521 for <ietf-languages@iana.org>; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:05:04 -0700
Received: (qmail 551 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2009 13:04:39 -0000
Received: from unknown (67.166.27.148) by smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.47) with ESMTP; 29 Jun 2009 13:04:39 -0000
Message-ID: <CFD23A71C2E244B881C35DB95451EC03@DGBP7M81>
From: Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>
To: ietf-languages@iana.org
References: <mailman.3.1246269602.5514.ietf-languages@alvestrand.no>
Subject: Re: Anomaly in upcoming registry
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:04:34 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="utf-8"; reply-type="original"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579
X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (pechora2.lax.icann.org [208.77.188.37]); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:05:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-BeenThere: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF Language tag discussions <ietf-languages.alvestrand.no>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages>, <mailto:ietf-languages-request@alvestrand.no?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/ietf-languages>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf-languages@alvestrand.no>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-languages-request@alvestrand.no?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages>, <mailto:ietf-languages-request@alvestrand.no?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:05:10 -0000

Randy Presuhn <randy underscore presuhn at mindspring dot com> wrote:

>> ... It certainly isn't patently obvious to me that this is a bug in 
>> the draft-4645bis Registry that needs to be fixed.
>
> I think no one is suggesting that anything be done to draft-4645bis. I 
> think re-opening 4645bis to make a change of this nature would be 
> inappropriate.

No, I agree that Mark was not calling to change anything in 
draft-4645bis, but rather in the "draft-4645bis Registry" -- the 
Registry to be supplied to IANA by draft-4645bis, whose method of 
construction is described in draft-4645bis.

My position is that the change Mark suggests may not be appropriate, and 
is certainly not a <span lang="en-US">slam dunk</span>.  It depends on 
our interpretation of draft-4646bis and any priorities it does or 
doesn't give to ISO 639-3 over other parts of ISO 639, and it depends on 
whether the relevant RA or JAC decides to correct the inconsistency in 
639 by either (a) reviving "sh" in 639-1 and adding "hbs" to 639-2, or 
(b) withdrawing "hbs" from 639-3.

I don't see why the philosophical discussion necessarily must wait until 
the new Registry is in force, but if others want to wait, that's fine 
with me.

--
Doug Ewell  *  Thornton, Colorado, USA  *  RFC 4645  *  UTN #14
http://www.ewellic.org
http://www1.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html
http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages  ˆ