Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00.txt

["Doug Ewell" <[e-mail]>]

Manu Sporny wrote:

>> I believe THIS LIST is the place to discuss this I-D. (Definitely not 
>> on some GitHub account.)
>
> The discussion is also happening in these places:
>
> https://github.com/w3c/vc-data-model/issues/436
> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-dir-literal/issues/3
> https://github.com/w3c/vc-data-model/pull/641
> https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/11
> https://github.com/json-ld/json-ld.org/issues/583

All right, multiple GitHub accounts. 😊

> I gave up attempting to herd all of these cats to the same location
> long ago, so the only thing I can do is bridge the conversation
> between the various groups.

I appreciate that problem. I understand you volunteered (or were volunteered) to coordinate this, and any procedural problems or quirks are not your fault.

> It's a bad example. Is this one better?
>
> HTML و CSS: تصميم و إنشاء مواقع الويب

My understanding of the group's viewpoint is that if you tag this string as "ar", its correct directionality will (or may) not be honored, but if you tag it as "ar-d-rtl" then it will. Is this correct? This would also answer #2.

> Folks have argued against `auto`, happy to remove it if that's what
> folks in this group thinks we should do.
>
> It was meant to achieve the same thing this achieves:
>
> https://www.w3.org/TR/string-meta/#dom-localizable-dir

That's actually helpful; it provides a definition for 'auto' ("directionality determined by Unicode Bidi Algorithm") which does not exist in the current I-D.

>> 4. Scripts exist in other directionalities besides LTR and RTL...
>
> Ok, then which ones should we add?

Well, if you define a registry and provisions for amending it, then you don't have to have all the answers right away.

> Sure, we can use a registry, I can make that change in the next
> version once it becomes clear that the proposal has merit and won't
> be rejected by this or the W3C i18n community.

I think this would help, but I don't think we can guarantee that it is the only objection that people here or at W3C will have. For me at least, the "ar" versus "ar-d-rtl" question above is paramount.

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