Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00.txt
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-langtag-ext-00.txt
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On 5/27/19 4:56 PM, Doug Ewell wrote: > OK, so the issue is that (in layman's terms) they need to declare > the paragraph to be of a certain directionality, even if the text > that begins the paragraph (or some other text that would set the tone > for directionality) might not be of that directionality. Is that > right? Basically, but you're missing a number of requirements, please refer to the background information I noted in my initial response to you. > If so, I contend that a plain old language tag should still be a > sufficient indicator of that: Yes, but that was rejected as a solution a long time ago. Some of our implementers are running in constrained environments and do not want to require a full blown HTML processor to understand language and base direction. There are use cases where you can't escape that (such as Ruby markup), but for the simple ones... they want a simpler solution than "include this gigantic HTML processor in your solution". > <span > lang="ar">rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz > > IS A LONG WORD.</span> (example is HTML, substitute your favorite > text format that uses language tags) This is not a solution as it would require a full blown HTML processor to understand the variations in an interoperable way (like, for example, what do you do when the tags mismatch, or there is a syntax error)? -- manu -- Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny) Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches
- [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-msporny-d… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ietf-languages] I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-… Michael Everson
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Mark Davis ☕️
- [Ietf-languages] d-langtag-ext Use Case (was: Re:… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Gordon P. Hemsley
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] I-D Action: draft-msporny-d-… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Manu Sporny
- Re: [Ietf-languages] d-langtag-ext Use Case (was:… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Richard Wordingham
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Phillips, Addison
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Gordon P. Hemsley
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- [Ietf-languages] Proposing -d- Martin Hosken
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Mark Davis ☕️
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… John Cowan
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Richard Wordingham
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ietf-languages] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-mspor… Richard Wordingham