Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden for EuroParl PRISM inquiry
Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@mykolab.com> Sun, 29 September 2013 17:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden for EuroParl PRISM inquiry
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9/29/2013 10:11 AM, Caspar Bowden wrote: > > 1) most people in a democracy prefer to be spied on by their own govts. > not a foreign govt (rather not be spied on at all obviously) I would prefer not to be spied on by *any* government, and certainly not my own. I would *expect* a foreign government to conduct such operations, not my own on it's own citizens. - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 10.2.0 (Build 2317) Charset: utf-8 wj8DBQFSSGAiq1pz9mNUZTMRArWZAJ9LpMpgoWikOW9xCF9cK6uAlrIHAwCdFqq6 fEsm56XNJmFvsxQsseOHMgU= =SS04 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Paul Ferguson Vice President, Threat Intelligence Internet Identity, Tacoma, Washington USA IID --> "Connect and Collaborate" --> www.internetidentity.com
- [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden for E… Caspar Bowden
- Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden f… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden f… Caspar Bowden
- Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden f… Paul Ferguson
- Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden f… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden f… SM
- Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden f… Avri Doria
- Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden f… Caspar Bowden
- Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden f… Caspar Bowden
- Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden f… Caspar Bowden
- Re: [ietf-privacy] Research Note on NSA/Snowden f… Josh Howlett